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Subject: [OASIS Issue Tracker] Commented: (CAMP-33) Time zones and timestamps


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Adrian Otto commented on CAMP-33:
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I object strongly to requiring only partial conformance to ISO8601 dates.

We are a spec that uses JSON, which uses ISO8601 Time/Date stamps.

If you are going to interpret a Time/Date, then you need to understand both the UTC format (ending in Z) as well as the numeric offset format described in ISO8601. Yes, supporting this means more complex code.

We should aim for conformance to the JSON style, and stay out of the definition of what an acceptable date format is. That's beyond the scope of our charter.


> Time zones and timestamps
> -------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMP-33
>                 URL: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-33
>             Project: OASIS Cloud Application Management for Platforms (CAMP) TC
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Spec
>            Reporter: Tobias Kunze 
>            Priority: Trivial
>
> We may want to standardize on a time zone for timestamps. E.g. http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-32 shows a JSON response with a local time (-08:00):
>     {
>        "uri" : "http://slc03lgx.us.oracle.com/campSrv/Assembly/9";,
>        "name" : "/examples",
>        "description" : null,
>        "created" : "2012-11-14T08:33-0800",
>        "tags": []
>        ...
>     }
> The questions are
>     1. Should the PaaS return
>         a. Client local time
>         b. Server local time
>         c. UTC
>         d. some other time, such as the account owner's (e.g. corporate headquarters)?
>     2. Should the time zone be client-selectable?
> Use cases:
>     A. I manage two PaaS, one in Singapur, one in Ireland. I was firefighting at 4am when my pager went off and then made some more changes around 9am. I want to see all operations on my dashboard in one local time so I don't have to do mental gymnastics correlating Singapur times with Ireland.
>     B. My PaaS provider in Virginia sent me an outage notice for 6:07am - 6:23am EDT. I am in Arizona which I don't even know the time zone of. Checking the management command history, I'd prefer them to be in server local time (EDT).
>     C. My company is headquartered in Johannesburg. My PaaS provider is in Tokyo. I am on assignment in China. I do NOT want the provider to be "smart" and bombard me with corporate HQ time. I'd like to get times in China time, or at least in UTC so I can think in simple offsets.
> It seems to me that
>     * For A,
>         - 1a is preferred but requires 2
>         - 1b should never be the default
>         - 1c is acceptable since I can manage one simple addition/subtraction
>         - 1d is unacceptable
>     * For B,
>         - 1a should not be the default
>         - 1b is preferred but (from A above) requires 2
>         - 1c is acceptable, as above
>         - 1d is unacceptable
>     * For C,
>         - 1a, 1b, 1c are the same as for A
>         - 1d is unacceptable by definition

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