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Subject: Draft Minutes 16 January 2013


Meeting Minutes 16th January 2013

Attendees:

Behrens, Michael		US Department of Defense (DoD)	Voting Member
Bhaskar Reddy Byreddy	Software AG, Inc 			Member
Carlson, Mark			Oracle					Voting Member
Chapman, Martin		Oracle					Chair
Durand, Jacques		Fujitsu Limited			Voting Member
Karmarkar, Anish		Oracle					Voting Member
Kunze, Tobias			Red Hat				Voting Member
Malhotra, Ashok		Oracle					Voting Member
Mischkinsky, Jeff		Oracle					Voting Member
Otto, Adrian			Rackspace Hosting, Inc.		Secretary
Pilz, Gilbert			Oracle					Voting Member
Rutt, Tom			Fujitsu Limited			Voting Member
Tupitza, Charles		JumpSoft				Member
Yendluri, Prasad		Software AG, Inc.			Voting Member
Agrawal, Roshan		Rackspace Hosting, Inc.		Observer




Intro:

 Scribe: Tom Rutt assume scribe duties
 Roll: Listed above: 13 of 16 voting members, 81%, meeting is quorate
 Agenda:
    Add topic of F2F con call bridge
    Agenda approved with one addition

Minutes:
  Minutes of 9 Jan https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201301/msg00022.html 

  Motion: m: Gil, s: Ashok moves to approve Jan 9 minutes.  
  No objection, minutes approved

Administrivia:

   F2F Planning:

    Chair encourages members to have proposals ready for meeting.
    Gil: should we allow provide to extend CAMP in such a way that extensions must be understood
    Gil agreed to prime discussion on e-mail list.
    Will add extensibility topic to agenda.
    Jacques asked for 1/2 day for Testing discussion

   F2F Conference Bridge:

     Martin stated we would use the same phone number and an Oracle hosted Webex (dif webex number).

  Action-201301-16-0: Martin to place web-ex and conference bridge details on the Kavi calendar and agenda
    Meeting starts 9:00 AM wed morning

  CloudConnect: - Speakers F2F Meeting (4-5 April)

    Gil Pilz and Adrian Otto volunteered to be a speakers.
    Martin will forward Gill and Adrian's name

  Topic: potential meeting for two days in april in conjunction with cloud connect.

  Mark Carlson: it is too close to our next meeting.
  No TC member supported the desire for a F2F april 4-5 so Martin will turn down the invite for F2F at CloudConnect.

Editing Team Update:

   Martin had action item to talk to TC admin to create CSD01
   Anish and Adrian will create the actual CSD01 Document to log into the Kavi respository
   Once the CSD is in the repository the issues which are reflected will be marked as closed

Issue Discussion:

   Camp 25: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-25   Refine link structure
    Gil presented his proposal
    Links will have an hfref as well as a name
    All the examples of links were updated to include a name
    Name reflects the targetName of the thing that is pointed at

   Gil: "targetName"?

   Jacques: should clarify that this is the name of the resource not the name of the link

   Gil: Implementer can add additional attributes to link, but this should not be specified in standard
   Martin: normative additions of attributes could be the result of a new separate issue


  Motion: m: Gil, s: Anish Move to resolve CAMP-25 with proposal in JIRA modified by changing of "name" attribute to "targetName" attribute
   Agreed to use Camel Case for multi-word attribute and entity names
   No objections - motion to accept proposal for Camp25 for resolution accepted

   This change to go into WD03

 Issue Camp38: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-38   resourceState attribute needs clarification

  Gil presented his proposal for CAMP38
    Purpose of Resource State is to convey level of completeness of creation action
    three proposed values: creating, ready, destroying
    propose also removing progress field
    propose also removing array of messages at top level of resource, to avoid problems with put method
    Put on resource should not require echoing back the entire array of messages 
    I anticipate a future issue to add sub-resource which does not support put to avoid this problem
    Proposal adds "resourceState" attribute on all resources

   Alex: suggests an additional "expunged" state
   Adrian:  does destroy mean using rest Delete on resource?
   Gil: some resources are deleted by direct operation, others are deleted by a direct operation on a parent of the resource
   Gil: I am concerned about being able to have a get succeed after a delete on the resource
   Agreed to continue discussion of CAMP38 at F2F meeting next week

   Martin will put CAMP38 on F2F agenda

Topic Unassigned Issues:

   Chair asks member to look at issues list to volunteer for ownership.

AOB:

  Straggler roll

Meeting adjourned at 1:55 PM Eastern Time

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Summary of New and Outstanding Action Items:

  Action-201301-16-0: Martin to place web-ex and conference bridge details on the Kavi calender and agenda


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