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Subject: Draft Minutes 8th May 2013
Minutes 8th May 2013
Attendees:
Rackspace Hosting, Inc. Roshan Agrawal Voting Member
Oracle Mark Carlson Voting Member
Oracle Martin Chapman Chair
Fujitsu Limited Jacques Durand Voting Member
Oracle Anish Karmarkar Voting Member
Oracle Ashok Malhotra Voting Member
Rackspace Hosting, Inc. Adrian Otto Secretary
Vnomic Derek Palma Member
Oracle Gilbert Pilz Voting Member
Fujitsu Limited Tom Rutt Voting Member
Software AG, Inc. Prasad Yendluri Voting Member
Intro:
Prasad assumes scribe duties.
Roll: names listed above, 10 of 15 (66%), meeting is quorate.
Topic: Agenda bashing. Add item on cloudplugfest
Agenda approved
Minutes:
1st May 2013: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201305/msg00007.html
Topic: 1st May 2013, Minutes approval
MOTION: Anish moves, Ashok seconds, approve 1st May 2013 Minutes.
passed w/o
Topic: Administrivia
Anish: Madrid , santa clara plugfest update
..Event 16th-18th sept, 13. Need volunteers for presentation..
Mark: Plugfest in Santa Clara. 3-days (M-W). W-Thu (maybe Fri) in Madrid. Critical mass would be in Santa Clara
Martin: We can do plugfest remotely and have someone speak at both events
Mark: Opp. to do BOF session & Demo of CAMP in Santa Clara
Anish: Again any volunteers for Madrid or I will check with Alex offline
Topic: Timeline
Martin: still have 31 issues...
Topic: Editing team update
wd10 available incorporating Gils editorial pass.
Topic: New Issues
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-66 Creating instance of a Platform Component
Anish: Issue 30 (Parameters) resolution talks about parameters on a PlatformComponentTemplate and the fact that the platform MUST accept POST on
.... PlatformComponentTempaltes that specify parameters. This is a new feature that we have introduced.
..Given this resolution, we might want to specific exactly how those POSTs work by adding another subsection in the protocol section. Otherwise we will not have interop
Ashok: q? If you want to create instance of platform component right?
MOTION: Anish: Moves to open CAMP-66 as priority P2, Ashok 2nds
passed w/o
Issue 66 is open
Topic: Issue 58
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-58 Justification for the common "created" attribute is unclear
Gil's Proposal: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/49108/camp-spec-v1.1-wd10-r2-issue-58.doc
Overview of changes:
Remove the description of the common created attribute from Section 5
Remove created from all outlines and examples
Tom: Can you explain the rationale again?
Gil: Nobody could think of why we need it..
Jacques: Want to make sure that, does not preclude things we want do.. e.g. eTag mechanism (based on time-stamp)
Anish: eTags are on HTTP headers. One of the reasons we are deleting created att
Jacques: Time-stamp kind of info better stored in logs. May be out of scope of model for CAMP
Ashok: eTags are used on the server. Server might use created, modified etc. time-stamps
MOTIONL Gil: Moves to accept his proposal to resolve issue 58, Anish: seconds
RESOLUTION: Issue 58 resolved with Gil's proposal https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/49108/camp-spec-v1.1-wd10-r2-issue-58.doc
Passed w/o
Topic: Issue CAMP-17
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-17
Tom: People need to review what I proposed. I need to change my proposal to fix resolution to 58
Tom: futher explains his changes to the diagrams
... used UML notation w/o any migration arrows
Don't want to vote on it today
.. I will updated my proposal with changes to get rid of timestamp (issue 58)
Topic: PDP
Martin: Any updates from people involved in developing PDP further..
Gil: Explains the latest proposal (section 4.2 Deployment plan)
One of the proposals is to require deployment plan to be YAML file
Proposal: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/49086/camp-spec-v1.1-wd10%20%282%29-issue-4-v3.doc
Provides way to encapsulate TOSCA CSARs in CAMP PDP
Adrian: Line numbers & examples seem off from what is referred to, in the description
Anish: Suggests a way in Word?
Tom: q on Target type
different from resource type?
Roshan: How do targettype name compare with requirement(...?)
Derek: q reg. type name. Is that just a string or more semantics / interpretation?
Gil: Needs thinking..
Derek: Concerned about proliferation of names.. Orig. q was on discovery and mapping
Gil: we could also have Platform Component Templates enumerate all the types they claim to represent
Anish: All that is discoverable from platform entrypoint
Gil: so a PCT for Tomcat7 could claim "com.example.java:ServletContainer" *and* ?org.apache.tomcat:Tomcat7?
Adrian: Does the proposal make clear what TargetType corresponds to..
Gil: may need some work in that area.
Jacques: Is there a formal way to specify what is a valid PDP (YAML schema?)
Derek: Where would things like deployment port be specified?
Gil: there is an example for that sort of thing (customization)
... Gil further explains
Tom: Is there going to be metadata for the requirements
Gil: Add more data to the linktype
Ashok: Q on example 4.
Gil: explains where they stand in the sub-group on the proposal.. relationship between a component and its requirement is opaque,
... what a platform is supposed to do with the requirement
Martin: Alex is trying to organize another call
Gil: another problem related to deployment plan having a version
Topic: AOB
Straggler roll: Adrian and Derek
Meeting Adjourned
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