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Subject: Re: [camp] PDP subcommittee and next meeting



Only concern is that there are other P1 issues to discuss and at least one proposal.
If there is a capable pro-tem chair volunteer that might be better?

--A


On 13/05/2013 18:55, Martin Chapman wrote:
Alex et al,

I will probably not be able to make this Wednesday's TC call so I was thinking of cancelling and handing over the time slot to a pdp call - this would not be a formal call to maintain voting rights etc.

Thoughts?

Martin.



-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Heneveld [mailto:alex.heneveld@cloudsoftcorp.com]
Sent: 13 May 2013 18:17
To: camp@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [camp] PDP subcommittee and next meeting


Hi folks-

Thanks to all who joined the call just now.  Productive.  My notes and thoughts
below.

I'll send an invite to the list for tomorrow's call at 4pm UK / 8am PDT, using
GTM details (with Switzerland for Anish this time):

     https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/759306270

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Best,
Alex


SELECTED NOTES/COMMENTS
(Not intended as a transcript of the call, but my sense and my thoughts.  Please
feel free to amend by email.)

DP component specs --
      typically become components, and often the platform will supply more
components;
     but the platform MAY NOT reflect a component in the DP spec with a
component in the platform
     (e.g. in a paas which e.g. uses a WAR as an input but doesn't model them as
top-level ACT's)

There are valid reasons why people would want to represent a Platform
Component in the DP (e.g. providing a concrete topology, asking for a server,
asking for a git repo); but in general leaving it abstract, giving App
Components (artifacts) and requirements, is likely to be more portable /
better.

Requirements as explicit types (Alex's (1b) ) tentatively seems clearer now, vs
(1a) in Alex's note from Gil.
Requirements expressed in such a way provide abstraction independent of the
component nodes -- more flexible than just components, and more formal and
dependable than mixins (1c).

Traits as requirements (Alex's (2a) ) as a peer to "relationship"
requirements seems a reasonable
approach but need more time to process.  The line between a "provider /
supertype" requirement on a component and the "relationship" is blurry -- e.g.
in case of a git repo, it might be part of a component (e.g. OpenShift) or it
might be a separate component.

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