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Subject: draft minutes 20th November 2013
Meeting Minutes 20th November 2013 Attendees Oracle Martin Chapman Chair Fujitsu Limited Jacques Durand Voting Member Cloudsoft Corporation Limited Alex Heneveld Voting Member Oracle Anish Karmarkar Voting Member Oracle Ashok Malhotra Voting Member NetApp Alex McDonald Member Rackspace Hosting, Inc. Adrian Otto Secretary Vnomic Derek Palma Voting Member Oracle Gilbert Pilz Voting Member Fujitsu Limited Tom Rutt Voting Member Software AG, Inc. Prasad Yendluri Voting Member Intro: Jacques assumes scribe duties. Roll: Voting Members: 10 of 12 (83%), meeting is quorate. Agenda: add discussion about next weeks call - day before US Thanksgiving Agenda approved Minutes: 13th November 2013: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201311/msg00119.html inconsistency observed by Gil: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201311/msg00129.html In the motions to close 148, the actual issue number should be 143, transcription error as 143 is in the list of issues preceding the motion. MOTION: tom - approve minutes of 13th nov as modified, Gil 2nd. No obj. Approved Admin: Discussion on meeting weds 27th Nov - day before US Thanksgiving Gil, Ashok will nto attend. Chair: still keep Wed 27 meeting on - we'll see if quorate Timeline: chair: 20 open issues, 1 P1, 14 P2, 5 P3 ... 9 have very concrete proposals Editors update: Gil: WD30 latest editor draft Test assertions: need aligned with latest re-factored spec draft. Scheduled for next week. Issue discussions: chair: scrum session issues first. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-144 no way to correlate a resource's "type" value with the array of type definitions contained in the TypeDefinitions resource Gil presents proposal MOTION: (tom) to resolve 144 with the proposal in JIRA (Anish 2nd). No discuss. No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-118 4.3.2.4 services - "application in"? MOTION: (gil) to resolve 118 with the proposal in JIRA (last JIRA comment) (tom 2nd). No discuss. No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-117 4.3.3 Artifact Specification Anish Karmarkar: r we saying 117 is resolved by 147? not quite - because of this proposal 147 could close no action! MOTION: (gil) to resolve 117 with proposal in JIRA for (tom 2nd). No discuss.No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-116 4.3 Deployment Plan Schema - well-formed/conforms to MOTION: (gil) to resolve 116 with the proposal in JIRA (tom 2nd). No discuss .No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-113 4.3.2.1 campVersion - SHALL? Adrian Otto (Rackspace)1: I move to resolve CAMP-113 with the proposal in Jira MOTION: (adrian) move to resolve CAMP-113 with the proposal in Jira (Anish 2nd). No discuss. No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-109 4.3.1 General Attribute MOTION: (anish) to resolve 109 with proposal in JIRA (gil 2nd). No discuss. No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-109 4.3.1 General Attributes anish: RPM file needs a ref to the concept def, not a particular version MOTION: (gil) to resolve 105 with the proposal in JIRA and direct editors to do the right thing (tom 2nd). No discuss. No obj. Approved. Issues with proposals post scrum: https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-110 Values for "attributeType" are not clearly defined. Gil presents his proposal MOTION: (tom) to resolve issue 110 with proposal in JIRA (jacques 2nd). No discuss. No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-98 3 Application Management Lifecycle tom: most pictures assume Plan is supported Gil: just uploaded new prop in JIRA for #98 MOTION: (tom) to resolve 98 with (just uploaded) proposal in JIRA (gil 2nd). No discuss. No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-148 Section 3 is redundant MOTION: (tom) to close w no-action #148 (due to #98) (gil 2nd). No discuss. No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-72 Error Response Message Resource looks like relic of a bygone age Anish: suggest to get rid of 6.1.1 altogether chair: HTTP is a normative ref , so compliance is implied. chair: just replace with a blanket statement about HTTP codes specified in RFCxxxx MOTION: (gil) to resolve 72 with the proposal in JIRA but remove proposed 6.1.1 (anish 2nd). No discuss. No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-73 Make the style of figures consistent MOTION: (anish) to resolve 73 with proposal in JIRA (ashok 2nd). No discuss. No obj. Approved. Issues needing discussion: https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-128 C.1 Mandatory Statements (conflicting proposals) MOTION: MOTION: (anish) to close w no-action 128 (ashok 2nd). CAMP-99 resolves this No discuss. No obj. Approved. https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-44 Clarify resource type issues and API Anish: should be a P2 not P3 Gil Pilz (Oracle): Adrian has left, Alex is gone alexMD: inheritance same issue for attr and op ... need clarify diff between template vs instance. Also multiple inheritance has no good solution Gil: not ready for approval anyway - just direction Gil: proposal still needs some improvements. Attribute constraints are in attr metadata. Anish will do another precise proposal - need Alex to evaluate it, need help/review https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-26 Need to define a core set of Platform Component types Tom Rutt (Fujitsu): this should now be standard "service types" not platform component types. MartinC: defer this issue to a primer or another document - noting we have not agreed to any other deliverable apart from the spec and test assertions docs Anish: could a primer / example doc show some common platform component types? (supporting doc issue, not spec) anish: suggest to close this issue, let new initiative on this become a new issue. Tom Rutt (Fujitsu): +1 to close rather than defer MOTION: (anish) to close w no-action 26 (tom 2nd). ashok: some members missing... ... we should hold as a courtesy MOTION: (ashok) to table #26 (jacques 2nd) ... no obj to tabeling. MOTION IS TABELLED AOB Straggler roll: next meeting: Wed 27 Nov 13 Meeting adjourned.
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