Raw chat log of 2014-02-05 call

[Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>]

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Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Agenda: Roll Call, Select Scribe, Editors 
Update, PR Discussion, Straggler Roll

anish: we should add resolving 146/162 before moving to PR discussion

Alex Heneveld: @Adrian - your voice is very very faint

anish: checklist for CSD/PR: 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/tca/download.php/47468/tc-submission-checklist-wd03.html

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Agenda: Agenda: Roll Call, Select Scribe, 
Editors Update, CAMP-146, CAMP-162, PR Discussion, Straggler Roll

anish: 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201401/msg00074.html

anish: martin's email for PR: 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201401/msg00085.html

Scribe: topic: minutes Jan 29. MOTION to approve (Anish/Gil).

Scribe: ... no obj, approved.

Scribe: topic: editors update

Scribe: Gil: produced WD38 (resolutions to last meeting issues, + #162 
resolution)

Scribe: ... then WD39 after this. (final PR-ready)

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52094/camp-spec-v1.1-wd38.doc

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52111/camp-spec-v1.1-wd39.doc

Alex Heneveld: Folks I have to leave at 1830 GMT

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip

Scribe: Gil: produced the zip package (CSD04)

Gil Pilz (Oracle): 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52132/camp-ta-v1.1-wd18.doc

Martin - just observing: did yu tae rolland record if quorate?

Martin - just observing: (excuse iphone tyos)

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Martin - yes, we are 9/12 75%

Martin - just observing: thnx. back to cocktails

Scribe: jacques: present TA specification latest

Scribe: anish: posted an update of TAs, mostly editorial

Scribe: topic: CAMP-146

Scribe: ... about CAMP versions

Scribe: Alex: should not hold up PR for this. Happy to go either way 
(could close up)

Scribe: Adrian: (acting as temp chair)

Scribe: Adrian: we should leave it open.

Scribe: Tom: would that be a material change --> we leave it to another PR?

anish: close it now. it can always be reopened later, if there is will 
in the TC to address it

Scribe: Alex: close then reopen in future.

Scribe: ... MOTION: close #146 w no action (Alex/Anish)

Scribe: ... approved.

Scribe: topic: CAMP-162

Scribe: Gil: MOTION to open CAMP-162 (Gil/Anish)

Scribe: ... no obj, approved UNAN.

Scribe: Gil: MOTION to close CAMP-162 as already resolved in WD38 
(Gil/Anish)

Scribe: ... no obj, approved UNAN.

Scribe: topic: PR

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip

Scribe: Gil: created package of potential PR. Maybe ref to TA need update.

Tom Rutt (Fujitsu): Test assertions for the normative statements in this 
specification are located at: 
http://docs.oasis-open.org/camp/camp-ta/v1.1/camp-ta-v1.1.pdf

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): WD39 = WD38 without redlines

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): WD39 has a reference to the TA document. TA doc 
is appropriate for CD but maybe not PR.

Scribe: Anish: 3 options

anish: option (1): change the camp spec to remove the link to TA doc, 
don't do CSD/PR for TA

anish: (2): don't change the CAMP spec, do the CSD/PR for TA 
simultaneously with main spec

anish: (3) don't change the CAMP spec, do a CSD but not PR for TA today

Scribe: jacques: keep the TA link in CAMP related works, and approve a 
CSD of TA

Martin - just observing: its not normative so we can change the ref to 
the latest ta when we get to cs wothout triggering another pr - stop 
overthinking this

Scribe: Anish: prefers option 3

Scribe: Anish: today: CSD + PR for core CAMP, just CSD for TA.

Scribe: Tom: +1 to Anish proposal

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Proposed Motion: I move that the TC approve 
Cloud Application Management for Platforms Version 1.1 WD39 and all 
associated artifacts packaged together in 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip 
as Committee Specification Draft 04 and designate the PDF version of the 
specification as authoritative.

Scribe: Adrian: let us proceed for CAMP spec

Scribe: MOTION (Anish/Gil) to approve Cloud Application Management for 
Platforms Version 1.1 WD39 and all associated artifacts packaged 
together in 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip 
as Committee Specification Draft 04 and designate the PDF version of the 
specification as authoritative.

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): The figures in the HTML version of the spec in 
the CSD04package.zip package are difficult to read.

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Tom indicates this is a final publication 
concern, that should not block PR.

Gil Pilz (Oracle): 
file://localhost/Users/gpilz/Documents/CAMP/working%20drafts/CSD04package/camp-spec-v1.1-wd39_files/image001.gif

Scribe: .. no obj. Approved UNAN

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Proposed Motion: I move that the TC approve 
submitting Cloud Application Management for Platforms Version 1.1 CSD04 
contained in 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip 
as PR02 for 15 days public review.

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): TC Admin's attention is directed to ensure that 
the "Additional artifacts" link on the cover page contains the link to 
the CSD04/PR02 version of the camp-type-definitions.zip.
     TC admin is also requested that a latest link to the CAMP-TA 
document be added to the "Related works" section on the cover page, 
should the camp-ta work product be motioned to be published as a csd/pr

Scribe: MOTION (Anish/Gil) to proceed as just above (Adrian chat note). 
no obj. approved UNAN

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Adrian Action Item: assuming 6 passes, request 
TC Admin to upload to docs using this form: 
https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tc-admin-requests/committee-specification-draft-creation-upload-request

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Adrian Action: request TC admin for a 
subsequent Public review using this form 
https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tc-admin-requests/15-day-committee-specification-draft-public-review-request 

    (note TC Admin prefers two tickets to be logged. One for the CSD 
and one for the PR)

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Topic: CAMP-TA CD01/PR1 planning

Tom Rutt (Fujitsu): 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201402/msg00007.html

Gil Pilz (Oracle): CSDXXpackage.zip

anish: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52135

anish: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52136

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Proposed Motion: I move to approve Cloud 
Application Management for Platforms (CAMP) Test Assertions Version 1.1 
and all associated artifacts packaged together in 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52136 as 
Committee Specification Draft 04 and designate the PDF version of the 
specification as authoritative.

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): wait

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Proposed Motion: I move to approve Cloud 
Application Management for Platforms (CAMP) Test Assertions Version 1.1 
and all associated artifacts packaged together in 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52136 as 
Committee Specification Draft 01 and designate the PDF version of the 
specification as authoritative.

Scribe: MOTION (Anish/Gil) to do as above. no obj. approved UNAN.

anish: woo-hoo!

Martin - just observing1: well done team!

Gil Pilz (Oracle): somebody grab the chat log

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): I will

Scribe: I did

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): we also want the scribe to record Adjournment

Scribe: Meeting adjourned at 11:30pmPT

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): tx!!

Martin - just observing1: please post log to the list as draft minutes i 
will pretty print next week!

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): am

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): but close enough!

Scribe: Meeting adjourned at 11:30amPT, sorry

Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Martin - do you want me to produce the draft 
agenda, or is that something you want to handle? I need the reference to 
it to make the TC Admin requests.

anish: nice job everyone!