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Subject: Draft Minutes 5th February 2014


Meeting Minutes 5th February 2014

Attendees:

Fujitsu Limited		 	Jacques Durand 	Voting Member
Cloudsoft Corporation Limited 	Alex Heneveld 	Voting Member
Oracle 				Anish Karmarkar 	Voting Member
Oracle 				Ashok Malhotra 	Voting Member
NetApp 				Alex McDonald 	Voting Member
Rackspace Hosting, Inc. 		Adrian Otto 	Secretary/Chair
Oracle 				Gilbert Pilz 	Voting Member
Red Hat 				Krishna Raman 	Voting Member
Fujitsu Limited 			Tom Rutt 	Voting	 Member
Software AG, Inc. 			Prasad Yendluri 	Voting Member

Intro:

    Chair: Adrian is pro-tem chair this week (approved last week)
    Scribe:
     Roll: Attendeeslisted above, 10 of 12 (83%), meeting is quorate.

     Agenda: Roll Call, Select Scribe, Editors Update, CAMP-146, CAMP-162, PR Discussion, Straggler Roll
      anish: 
           https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201401/msg00074.html 

       anish: martin's email for PR: 
       https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201401/msg00085.html 
      agenda approved

Topic: Minutes

       Minutes Jan 29: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201401/msg00074.html 
       MOTION to approve (Anish/Gil).
      ... no obj, approved.

Topic: editors update

      Gil: produced WD38 (resolutions to last meeting issues, + #162 resolution)
      ... then WD39 after this. (final PR-ready)
      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52094/camp-spec-v1.1-wd38.doc 
      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52111/camp-spec-v1.1-wd39.doc 
      Gil: produced the zip package (CSD04)
      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip 

      jacques: present TA specification latest
       https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52132/camp-ta-v1.1-wd18.doc 
      anish: posted an update of TAs, mostly editorial

Topic: CAMP-146 https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-146 

      ... about CAMP versions

      Alex: should not hold up PR for this. Happy to go either way (could close up)
      Adrian: (acting as temp chair)
      Adrian: we should leave it open.
      Tom: would that be a material change --> we leave it to another PR?
      anish: close it now. it can always be reopened later, if there is will in the TC to address it
      Alex: close then reopen in future.

      MOTION: close #146 w no action (Alex/Anish)
      Approved w/o

Topic: CAMP-162 https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/CAMP-162 

      Gil: MOTION to open CAMP-162 (Gil/Anish)
      ... no obj, approved UNAN.

      Gil: MOTION to close CAMP-162 as already resolved in WD38  (Gil/Anish)
      ... no obj, approved UNAN.

Topic: PR

      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip 
      Gil: created package of potential PR. Maybe ref to TA need update.
      Tom Rutt (Fujitsu): Test assertions for the normative statements in this specification are located at: 
      http://docs.oasis-open.org/camp/camp-ta/v1.1/camp-ta-v1.1.pdf 

      Adrian Otto (Rackspace): WD39 = WD38 without redlines
      Adrian Otto (Rackspace): WD39 has a reference to the TA document. TA doc is appropriate for CD but maybe not PR.
      Anish: 3 options
      anish: option (1): change the camp spec to remove the link to TA doc, don't do CSD/PR for TA
      anish: (2): don't change the CAMP spec, do the CSD/PR for TA simultaneously with main spec
      anish: (3) don't change the CAMP spec, do a CSD but not PR for TA today
      jacques: keep the TA link in CAMP related works, and approve a CSD of TA

      Martin - just observing: its not normative so we can change the ref to the latest ta when we get to cs wothout triggering another pr
      Anish: prefers option 3

      Anish: today: CSD + PR for core CAMP, just CSD for TA.

      Tom: +1 to Anish proposal

      Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Proposed Motion: I move that the TC approve  Cloud Application Management for Platforms Version 1.1 WD39 and all 
associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip  
as Committee Specification Draft 04 and designate the PDF version of the specification as authoritative.

      Adrian: let us proceed for CAMP spec

      MOTION (Anish/Gil) to approve Cloud Application Management for Platforms Version 1.1 WD39 and all associated artifacts packaged together in 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip  as Committee Specification Draft 04 and designate the PDF version of the 
specification as authoritative.

      Adrian Otto (Rackspace): The figures in the HTML version of the spec in the CSD04package.zip package are difficult to read.
      Adrian Otto (Rackspace): Tom indicates this is a final publication concern, that should not block PR.
      Gil Pilz (Oracle): file://localhost/Users/gpilz/Documents/CAMP/working%20drafts/CSD04package/camp-spec-v1.1-wd39_files/image001.gif 

      .. no obj. Approved UNAN

      MOTION (Anish/Gil) I move that the TC approve submitting Cloud Application Management for Platforms Version 1.1 CSD04 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52131/CSD04package.zip  as PR02 for 15 days public review.
       TC Admin's attention is directed to ensure that the "Additional artifacts" link on the cover page contains the link to the CSD04/PR02 version of the camp-type-definitions.zip.
      TC admin is also requested that a latest link to the CAMP-TA document be added to the "Related works" section on the cover page, should the camp-ta work product be motioned to be published as a csd/pr.

      no obj. approved UNAN

    Adrian Action Item: assuming 6 passes, request TC Admin to upload to docs using this form: 
       https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tc-admin-requests/committee-specification-draft-creation-upload-request

     Adrian Action: request TC admin for a subsequent Public review using this form 
        https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tc-admin-requests/15-day-committee-specification-draft-public-review-request 

     (note TC Admin prefers two tickets to be logged. One for the CSD and one for the PR)

Topic: CAMP-TA CD01/PR1 planning

      Tom Rutt (Fujitsu):     https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/email/archives/201402/msg00007.html 
      Gil Pilz (Oracle): CSDXXpackage.zip
      anish: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52135 
      anish: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52136 



      MOTION (Anish/Gil) I move to approve Cloud Application Management for Platforms (CAMP) Test Assertions Version 1.1 and all associated artifacts packaged together in 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/camp/download.php/52136  as Committee Specification Draft 01 and designate the PDF version of the specification as authoritative..
       no obj. approved UNAN.

AOB:

  Stragglers

Meeting adjourned.



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