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Subject: Re: [cgmopen-ms] CGM Transition - Reminder and next steps
Hi Dieter, I better understand your view that connects what I've been viewing as two separate issues: - the transfer, as voted by the MS members in May, of non-cash assets governed by the CGMOC Inc Asset Transfer Agreement of 2005 - the transfer, as requested by the Steering Committee in July, of OASIS cash assets I think it is more straightforward to address the two separate issues separately, (if for no other reason that there is a simple process for the former, no such path for the latter) but you can decide how you want to proceed. As to timelines, please reread my messages. I've only suggested a plan that I thought coordinated with your goals and expectations and avoided any unintended issues (like a shut down resulting from a lack of members). You are clearly informed about all the inter-dependencies and are welcome to work the processes at a pace with which you are comfortable. Scott... On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Dieter Weidenbrück <dieter@dwz8.de> wrote: > Scott, > > > > please find my comments inline. > > > > Regards, > > Dieter > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Scott McGrath [mailto:scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. September 2013 23:55 > An: Dieter Weidenbrück > Cc: cgmopen-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org; > cgmo-wegcgm@lists.oasis-open.org; James Bryce Clark; Chet Ensign; Laurent > Liscia; Jim Hughes (LCA) > Betreff: Re: [cgmopen-ms] CGM Transition - Reminder and next steps > > > > Dieter, > > > > A few important considerations: > > > > The Members of the Member Section voted to transition to CGMO Foundation in > May. I and the Steering Committee owe them appropriate > > progress in that direction. My efforts that have offended you are > > only in an effort to make progress on that vote taken months ago. > >>Your wording seems to suggest that not much has happened since that vote, >> but this is not the case. > > > > As to the potential closing of the TC: > > The vote to transfer development of the spec outside of OASIS dictates the > TC closes. That was a decision of and by the members. While disappointed, I > support that decision and want to make sure the process proceeds smoothly. > >>I agree that the TC will eventually close. There has never been a >> discussion about closing it in October, or after the upcoming Board Meeting. > > > > On the potential closing of the Member Section: > > The Member Section Policy requires 5 Supporting Entities. There are > currently 4 organizational members of the Member Section and 2 Individuals. > Your Program Director has previously intimated that he expects attrition > will prevent meeting the minimum requirement in November. If there are 5 > Supporting Entities in November we would be delighted to initiate the annual > Steering Committee election and proceed forward in that direction if you so > wish. > >>It seems logical to me to close the Member Section once the transition will >> have happened. While we are in discussions about several things, including >> financial aspects, the Member Section cannot give up its status as a part of >> OASIS, which would make a difference in discussions with the OASIS Board, >> for example. > > Again, nobody has ever discussed to close the Member Section in October, or > right after the upcoming Board Meeting. The SC will definitely help with > this process, but the transition has to happen first. > > > > It is no secret that I have advocated for closing the Member Section to > reduce the bureaucratic burden on your group, and I believe there are more > productive ways to use your time to support CGM, but of course I could be > wrong. I take your guidance that you may wish to proceed with the Member > Section. I would be happy to support this change in direction, but please > do be offended if my latest information on the subject came in the email > from the CGMO Steering Committee on 1 September that reads in part: > > "As we know that no further CGM activity will take place within the MS or > the WebCGM TC...." > >>You know exactly that there is no change in direction, and you should not >> present the current situation as one. The Member Section, its SC, and the TC >> are still active, and they will continue to do so until all necessary assets >> will have been transferred to CGM Open Foundation. If that is necessary >> after November, we will hold elections as required. > > > > In summary, in order that we fulfill the Member Section request to > transition as voted in May, we need the the TC to follow the prescribed > steps,. Chet and Jamie will provide the appropriate guidance and the TC can > choose if and when to follow that guidance--but not following that guidance > will create a conflict with the vote to transition. Above all, you can know > that OASIS staff will support our members and their decisions to our best > ability. I am sorry that you perceive this support an inappropriate > pressure, that is not the intent. > >>and since May we have been in discussions with you to prepare the >> transition. We are not done yet, especially not on the financial side. I >> appreciate the help of Chet and Jamie, and we will choose the earliest point >> in time possible to shut down the OASIS structures. Your first email demands >> the closure before October 14th, which we have no other way than to consider >> as inappropriate pressure, because we want to discuss the financial aspects >> of the transfer at the October Board Meeting first. > > > > > > Scott... > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Dieter Weidenbrück <dieter@dwz8.de> wrote: > >> Scott, > >> > >> we want to make clear that the Steering Committee needs to clarify all >> open questions before any such move. So your comment about the SC delaying >> actions is incorrect. Your schedule is a unilateral one that has not been >> discussed with nor agreed to by the Steering Committee. There won't be a >> lack of supporting entities in November at all unless you kick out all CGM >> Open related members by then. Nobody has ever discussed that the TC and/or >> MS should be closed right after a Board Meeting in October. > >> > >> So we consider this an attempt to put pressure on CGM Open, very much in >> line with your actions during the past year, which have led to the MS >> decision to move CGM development to another entity outside of OASIS. > >> We suggest to finish discussions first and get final decisions before >> agreeing on a schedule. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Dieter > >> Chair CGMO SC > >> > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> Von: cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org > >> [mailto:cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org] Im Auftrag von Scott McGrath > >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. September 2013 21:00 > >> An: cgmopen-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org; > >> cgmo-wegcgm@lists.oasis-open.org; James Bryce Clark; Chet Ensign > >> Cc: Laurent Liscia > >> Betreff: [cgmopen-ms] CGM Transition - Reminder and next steps > >> > >> Sorry for the cross-post - This message is being distributed to all OASIS >> CGM mail lists because the message impacts everyone in the OASIS CGM >> community and to ensure uniform understanding among the entire community. > >> > >> A CGM-Open Member Section ballot was undertaken to initiate transfer of >> CGM activity from OASIS to the newly forming CGMO Foundation [1]. > >> That ballot passed, see results posted [2] > >> > >> the above ballot initiates the transfer of the Assets originally > >> transferred to OASIS under the CGMO Consortium Inc Asset Transfer > >> Agreement of 2005. OASIS supports the subsequent transfer of these > >> Assets to CGMO Foundation and has ensured that our Liaison Policy > >> (which governs such contributions) allows for such a transfer. My > >> initial instructions suggested a course of action, which was > >> subsequently delayed by the CGM Steering Committee, but should now be > >> followed with vigor if you are to keep on schedule. See the mail > >> thread starting at [3] > >> > >> By copy of this message, I am asking Jamie Clark, OASIS General Counsel >> and Liaison Policy expert, to assist the WebCGM TC in crafting their TC >> motion and ballot to initiate the Asset transfer as allowed in the Liaison >> Policy and to work with the TC to ensure a timely migration. > >> > >> By copy of this message, I am also asking Chet Ensign, OASIS Director of >> TC Administration, to work with the WebCGM TC in crafting a TC motion and >> ballot to close. Closing the TC is a necessary step in support of the MS >> ballot, which expects no further development of the CGM spec at OASIS. > >> > >> Both these above steps must be completed in advance of submitting the >> formal request to transfer to the Board of Directors. I believe you want >> to have this Asset transfer addressed in the October Board meeting, so the >> last date to submit this request is 14 October. Jamie and Chet will work >> with you on the process details, but the deadline is coming up, so please >> start action now. > >> > >> The CGMO Steering Committee has requested that a portion of the dues paid >> to OASIS by CGMO MS Members be transferred to the new CGMO Foundation. [4] >> OASIS management believes this is not an appropriate use of OASIS dues and >> has denied the request [5]. This issue remains in active discussion (see >> the SC mail archives) and is expected to be resolved by or before the >> October Board meeting. > >> > >> Thank you in advance your your work to meet this schedule. In addition to >> the influences directing a timely migration to the CGMO Foundation, the CGM >> Open Member Section in OASIS is expected to be closed by policy (See Member >> Section Policy Section 3.4 related to lack of Supporting Entities) in >> November. You should endeavor to have the migration complete before then. > >> > >> I hope this helps pave a path forward, > >> > >> Scott... > >> > >> [1] > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archive > >> s/201305/msg00002.html > >> > >> [2] > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archive > >> s/201306/msg00009.html > >> > >> [3] > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archive > >> s/201306/msg00001.html > >> > >> [4] > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-sc/download.php/ > >> 50002/latest/20130718_CGMO_SC.pdf > >> > >> [5] > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-sc/email/archive > >> s/201307/msg00013.html > >> -- > >> Scott McGrath > >> COO > >> scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org > >> > >> > >> Tel +1 781-425-5073 x202 > >> Fax +1 781-425-5072 > >> > >> Follow OASIS on: > >> > >> LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen > >> > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen > >> > >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > >> generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Scott McGrath > > COO > > scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org > > > > > > Tel +1 781-425-5073 x202 > > Fax +1 781-425-5072 > > > > Follow OASIS on: > > LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen > > Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open > > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Dieter Weidenbrück <dieter@dwz8.de> wrote: > >> Scott, > >> > >> we want to make clear that the Steering Committee needs to clarify all >> open questions before any such move. So your comment about the SC delaying >> actions is incorrect. Your schedule is a unilateral one that has not been >> discussed with nor agreed to by the Steering Committee. There won't be a >> lack of supporting entities in November at all unless you kick out all CGM >> Open related members by then. Nobody has ever discussed that the TC and/or >> MS should be closed right after a Board Meeting in October. > >> > >> So we consider this an attempt to put pressure on CGM Open, very much in >> line with your actions during the past year, which have led to the MS >> decision to move CGM development to another entity outside of OASIS. > >> We suggest to finish discussions first and get final decisions before >> agreeing on a schedule. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Dieter > >> Chair CGMO SC > >> > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> Von: cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org >> [mailto:cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org] Im Auftrag von Scott McGrath > >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. September 2013 21:00 > >> An: cgmopen-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org; >> cgmo-wegcgm@lists.oasis-open.org; James Bryce Clark; Chet Ensign > >> Cc: Laurent Liscia > >> Betreff: [cgmopen-ms] CGM Transition - Reminder and next steps > >> > >> Sorry for the cross-post - This message is being distributed to all OASIS >> CGM mail lists because the message impacts everyone in the OASIS CGM >> community and to ensure uniform understanding among the entire community. > >> > >> A CGM-Open Member Section ballot was undertaken to initiate transfer of >> CGM activity from OASIS to the newly forming CGMO Foundation [1]. > >> That ballot passed, see results posted [2] > >> > >> the above ballot initiates the transfer of the Assets originally >> transferred to OASIS under the CGMO Consortium Inc Asset Transfer Agreement >> of 2005. OASIS supports the subsequent transfer of these Assets to CGMO >> Foundation and has ensured that our Liaison Policy (which governs such >> contributions) allows for such a transfer. My initial instructions >> suggested a course of action, which was subsequently delayed by the CGM >> Steering Committee, but should now be followed with vigor if you are to keep >> on schedule. See the mail thread starting at [3] > >> > >> By copy of this message, I am asking Jamie Clark, OASIS General Counsel >> and Liaison Policy expert, to assist the WebCGM TC in crafting their TC >> motion and ballot to initiate the Asset transfer as allowed in the Liaison >> Policy and to work with the TC to ensure a timely migration. > >> > >> By copy of this message, I am also asking Chet Ensign, OASIS Director of >> TC Administration, to work with the WebCGM TC in crafting a TC motion and >> ballot to close. Closing the TC is a necessary step in support of the MS >> ballot, which expects no further development of the CGM spec at OASIS. > >> > >> Both these above steps must be completed in advance of submitting the >> formal request to transfer to the Board of Directors. I believe you want >> to have this Asset transfer addressed in the October Board meeting, so the >> last date to submit this request is 14 October. Jamie and Chet will work >> with you on the process details, but the deadline is coming up, so please >> start action now. > >> > >> The CGMO Steering Committee has requested that a portion of the dues paid >> to OASIS by CGMO MS Members be transferred to the new CGMO Foundation. [4] >> OASIS management believes this is not an appropriate use of OASIS dues and >> has denied the request [5]. This issue remains in active discussion (see >> the SC mail archives) and is expected to be resolved by or before the >> October Board meeting. > >> > >> Thank you in advance your your work to meet this schedule. In addition to >> the influences directing a timely migration to the CGMO Foundation, the CGM >> Open Member Section in OASIS is expected to be closed by policy (See Member >> Section Policy Section 3.4 related to lack of Supporting Entities) in >> November. You should endeavor to have the migration complete before then. > >> > >> I hope this helps pave a path forward, > >> > >> Scott... > >> > >> [1] >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archives/201305/msg00002.html > >> > >> [2] >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archives/201306/msg00009.html > >> > >> [3] >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archives/201306/msg00001.html > >> > >> [4] >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-sc/download.php/50002/latest/20130718_CGMO_SC.pdf > >> > >> [5] >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-sc/email/archives/201307/msg00013.html > >> -- > >> Scott McGrath > >> COO > >> scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org > >> > >> > >> Tel +1 781-425-5073 x202 > >> Fax +1 781-425-5072 > >> > >> Follow OASIS on: > >> > >> LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen > >> > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen > >> > >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > >> generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Scott McGrath > > COO > > scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org > > > > > > Tel +1 781-425-5073 x202 > > Fax +1 781-425-5072 > > > > Follow OASIS on: > > > > LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen > > > > Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open -- Scott McGrath COO scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org Tel +1 781-425-5073 x202 Fax +1 781-425-5072 Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Dieter Weidenbrück <dieter@dwz8.de> wrote: > Scott, > > > > please find my comments inline. > > > > Regards, > > Dieter > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Scott McGrath [mailto:scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. September 2013 23:55 > An: Dieter Weidenbrück > Cc: cgmopen-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org; > cgmo-wegcgm@lists.oasis-open.org; James Bryce Clark; Chet Ensign; Laurent > Liscia; Jim Hughes (LCA) > Betreff: Re: [cgmopen-ms] CGM Transition - Reminder and next steps > > > > Dieter, > > > > A few important considerations: > > > > The Members of the Member Section voted to transition to CGMO Foundation in > May. I and the Steering Committee owe them appropriate > > progress in that direction. My efforts that have offended you are > > only in an effort to make progress on that vote taken months ago. > >>Your wording seems to suggest that not much has happened since that vote, >> but this is not the case. > > > > As to the potential closing of the TC: > > The vote to transfer development of the spec outside of OASIS dictates the > TC closes. That was a decision of and by the members. While disappointed, I > support that decision and want to make sure the process proceeds smoothly. > >>I agree that the TC will eventually close. There has never been a >> discussion about closing it in October, or after the upcoming Board Meeting. > > > > On the potential closing of the Member Section: > > The Member Section Policy requires 5 Supporting Entities. There are > currently 4 organizational members of the Member Section and 2 Individuals. > Your Program Director has previously intimated that he expects attrition > will prevent meeting the minimum requirement in November. If there are 5 > Supporting Entities in November we would be delighted to initiate the annual > Steering Committee election and proceed forward in that direction if you so > wish. > >>It seems logical to me to close the Member Section once the transition will >> have happened. While we are in discussions about several things, including >> financial aspects, the Member Section cannot give up its status as a part of >> OASIS, which would make a difference in discussions with the OASIS Board, >> for example. > > Again, nobody has ever discussed to close the Member Section in October, or > right after the upcoming Board Meeting. The SC will definitely help with > this process, but the transition has to happen first. > > > > It is no secret that I have advocated for closing the Member Section to > reduce the bureaucratic burden on your group, and I believe there are more > productive ways to use your time to support CGM, but of course I could be > wrong. I take your guidance that you may wish to proceed with the Member > Section. I would be happy to support this change in direction, but please > do be offended if my latest information on the subject came in the email > from the CGMO Steering Committee on 1 September that reads in part: > > "As we know that no further CGM activity will take place within the MS or > the WebCGM TC...." > >>You know exactly that there is no change in direction, and you should not >> present the current situation as one. The Member Section, its SC, and the TC >> are still active, and they will continue to do so until all necessary assets >> will have been transferred to CGM Open Foundation. If that is necessary >> after November, we will hold elections as required. > > > > In summary, in order that we fulfill the Member Section request to > transition as voted in May, we need the the TC to follow the prescribed > steps,. Chet and Jamie will provide the appropriate guidance and the TC can > choose if and when to follow that guidance--but not following that guidance > will create a conflict with the vote to transition. Above all, you can know > that OASIS staff will support our members and their decisions to our best > ability. I am sorry that you perceive this support an inappropriate > pressure, that is not the intent. > >>and since May we have been in discussions with you to prepare the >> transition. We are not done yet, especially not on the financial side. I >> appreciate the help of Chet and Jamie, and we will choose the earliest point >> in time possible to shut down the OASIS structures. Your first email demands >> the closure before October 14th, which we have no other way than to consider >> as inappropriate pressure, because we want to discuss the financial aspects >> of the transfer at the October Board Meeting first. > > > > > > Scott... > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Dieter Weidenbrück <dieter@dwz8.de> wrote: > >> Scott, > >> > >> we want to make clear that the Steering Committee needs to clarify all >> open questions before any such move. So your comment about the SC delaying >> actions is incorrect. Your schedule is a unilateral one that has not been >> discussed with nor agreed to by the Steering Committee. There won't be a >> lack of supporting entities in November at all unless you kick out all CGM >> Open related members by then. Nobody has ever discussed that the TC and/or >> MS should be closed right after a Board Meeting in October. > >> > >> So we consider this an attempt to put pressure on CGM Open, very much in >> line with your actions during the past year, which have led to the MS >> decision to move CGM development to another entity outside of OASIS. > >> We suggest to finish discussions first and get final decisions before >> agreeing on a schedule. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Dieter > >> Chair CGMO SC > >> > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> Von: cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org > >> [mailto:cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org] Im Auftrag von Scott McGrath > >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. September 2013 21:00 > >> An: cgmopen-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org; > >> cgmo-wegcgm@lists.oasis-open.org; James Bryce Clark; Chet Ensign > >> Cc: Laurent Liscia > >> Betreff: [cgmopen-ms] CGM Transition - Reminder and next steps > >> > >> Sorry for the cross-post - This message is being distributed to all OASIS >> CGM mail lists because the message impacts everyone in the OASIS CGM >> community and to ensure uniform understanding among the entire community. > >> > >> A CGM-Open Member Section ballot was undertaken to initiate transfer of >> CGM activity from OASIS to the newly forming CGMO Foundation [1]. > >> That ballot passed, see results posted [2] > >> > >> the above ballot initiates the transfer of the Assets originally > >> transferred to OASIS under the CGMO Consortium Inc Asset Transfer > >> Agreement of 2005. OASIS supports the subsequent transfer of these > >> Assets to CGMO Foundation and has ensured that our Liaison Policy > >> (which governs such contributions) allows for such a transfer. My > >> initial instructions suggested a course of action, which was > >> subsequently delayed by the CGM Steering Committee, but should now be > >> followed with vigor if you are to keep on schedule. See the mail > >> thread starting at [3] > >> > >> By copy of this message, I am asking Jamie Clark, OASIS General Counsel >> and Liaison Policy expert, to assist the WebCGM TC in crafting their TC >> motion and ballot to initiate the Asset transfer as allowed in the Liaison >> Policy and to work with the TC to ensure a timely migration. > >> > >> By copy of this message, I am also asking Chet Ensign, OASIS Director of >> TC Administration, to work with the WebCGM TC in crafting a TC motion and >> ballot to close. Closing the TC is a necessary step in support of the MS >> ballot, which expects no further development of the CGM spec at OASIS. > >> > >> Both these above steps must be completed in advance of submitting the >> formal request to transfer to the Board of Directors. I believe you want >> to have this Asset transfer addressed in the October Board meeting, so the >> last date to submit this request is 14 October. Jamie and Chet will work >> with you on the process details, but the deadline is coming up, so please >> start action now. > >> > >> The CGMO Steering Committee has requested that a portion of the dues paid >> to OASIS by CGMO MS Members be transferred to the new CGMO Foundation. [4] >> OASIS management believes this is not an appropriate use of OASIS dues and >> has denied the request [5]. This issue remains in active discussion (see >> the SC mail archives) and is expected to be resolved by or before the >> October Board meeting. > >> > >> Thank you in advance your your work to meet this schedule. In addition to >> the influences directing a timely migration to the CGMO Foundation, the CGM >> Open Member Section in OASIS is expected to be closed by policy (See Member >> Section Policy Section 3.4 related to lack of Supporting Entities) in >> November. You should endeavor to have the migration complete before then. > >> > >> I hope this helps pave a path forward, > >> > >> Scott... > >> > >> [1] > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archive > >> s/201305/msg00002.html > >> > >> [2] > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archive > >> s/201306/msg00009.html > >> > >> [3] > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archive > >> s/201306/msg00001.html > >> > >> [4] > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-sc/download.php/ > >> 50002/latest/20130718_CGMO_SC.pdf > >> > >> [5] > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-sc/email/archive > >> s/201307/msg00013.html > >> -- > >> Scott McGrath > >> COO > >> scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org > >> > >> > >> Tel +1 781-425-5073 x202 > >> Fax +1 781-425-5072 > >> > >> Follow OASIS on: > >> > >> LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen > >> > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen > >> > >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > >> generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Scott McGrath > > COO > > scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org > > > > > > Tel +1 781-425-5073 x202 > > Fax +1 781-425-5072 > > > > Follow OASIS on: > > LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen > > Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open > > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Dieter Weidenbrück <dieter@dwz8.de> wrote: > >> Scott, > >> > >> we want to make clear that the Steering Committee needs to clarify all >> open questions before any such move. So your comment about the SC delaying >> actions is incorrect. Your schedule is a unilateral one that has not been >> discussed with nor agreed to by the Steering Committee. There won't be a >> lack of supporting entities in November at all unless you kick out all CGM >> Open related members by then. Nobody has ever discussed that the TC and/or >> MS should be closed right after a Board Meeting in October. > >> > >> So we consider this an attempt to put pressure on CGM Open, very much in >> line with your actions during the past year, which have led to the MS >> decision to move CGM development to another entity outside of OASIS. > >> We suggest to finish discussions first and get final decisions before >> agreeing on a schedule. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Dieter > >> Chair CGMO SC > >> > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> Von: cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org >> [mailto:cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org] Im Auftrag von Scott McGrath > >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. September 2013 21:00 > >> An: cgmopen-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; cgmopen-ms@lists.oasis-open.org; >> cgmo-wegcgm@lists.oasis-open.org; James Bryce Clark; Chet Ensign > >> Cc: Laurent Liscia > >> Betreff: [cgmopen-ms] CGM Transition - Reminder and next steps > >> > >> Sorry for the cross-post - This message is being distributed to all OASIS >> CGM mail lists because the message impacts everyone in the OASIS CGM >> community and to ensure uniform understanding among the entire community. > >> > >> A CGM-Open Member Section ballot was undertaken to initiate transfer of >> CGM activity from OASIS to the newly forming CGMO Foundation [1]. > >> That ballot passed, see results posted [2] > >> > >> the above ballot initiates the transfer of the Assets originally >> transferred to OASIS under the CGMO Consortium Inc Asset Transfer Agreement >> of 2005. OASIS supports the subsequent transfer of these Assets to CGMO >> Foundation and has ensured that our Liaison Policy (which governs such >> contributions) allows for such a transfer. My initial instructions >> suggested a course of action, which was subsequently delayed by the CGM >> Steering Committee, but should now be followed with vigor if you are to keep >> on schedule. See the mail thread starting at [3] > >> > >> By copy of this message, I am asking Jamie Clark, OASIS General Counsel >> and Liaison Policy expert, to assist the WebCGM TC in crafting their TC >> motion and ballot to initiate the Asset transfer as allowed in the Liaison >> Policy and to work with the TC to ensure a timely migration. > >> > >> By copy of this message, I am also asking Chet Ensign, OASIS Director of >> TC Administration, to work with the WebCGM TC in crafting a TC motion and >> ballot to close. Closing the TC is a necessary step in support of the MS >> ballot, which expects no further development of the CGM spec at OASIS. > >> > >> Both these above steps must be completed in advance of submitting the >> formal request to transfer to the Board of Directors. I believe you want >> to have this Asset transfer addressed in the October Board meeting, so the >> last date to submit this request is 14 October. Jamie and Chet will work >> with you on the process details, but the deadline is coming up, so please >> start action now. > >> > >> The CGMO Steering Committee has requested that a portion of the dues paid >> to OASIS by CGMO MS Members be transferred to the new CGMO Foundation. [4] >> OASIS management believes this is not an appropriate use of OASIS dues and >> has denied the request [5]. This issue remains in active discussion (see >> the SC mail archives) and is expected to be resolved by or before the >> October Board meeting. > >> > >> Thank you in advance your your work to meet this schedule. In addition to >> the influences directing a timely migration to the CGMO Foundation, the CGM >> Open Member Section in OASIS is expected to be closed by policy (See Member >> Section Policy Section 3.4 related to lack of Supporting Entities) in >> November. You should endeavor to have the migration complete before then. > >> > >> I hope this helps pave a path forward, > >> > >> Scott... > >> > >> [1] >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archives/201305/msg00002.html > >> > >> [2] >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archives/201306/msg00009.html > >> > >> [3] >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-ms/email/archives/201306/msg00001.html > >> > >> [4] >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-sc/download.php/50002/latest/20130718_CGMO_SC.pdf > >> > >> [5] >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmopen-sc/email/archives/201307/msg00013.html > >> -- > >> Scott McGrath > >> COO > >> scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org > >> > >> > >> Tel +1 781-425-5073 x202 > >> Fax +1 781-425-5072 > >> > >> Follow OASIS on: > >> > >> LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen > >> > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen > >> > >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > >> generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Scott McGrath > > COO > > scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org > > > > > > Tel +1 781-425-5073 x202 > > Fax +1 781-425-5072 > > > > Follow OASIS on: > > > > LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen > > > > Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open -- Scott McGrath COO scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org Tel +1 781-425-5073 x202 Fax +1 781-425-5072 Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open
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