RE: [chairs] relations with W3C

[Hal Lockhart <hal.lockhart@entegrity.com>]

Title: RE: [chairs] relations with W3C

I beg your pardon. I tend to over generalize. I had forgotten about XCBF.

Hal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Griffin [mailto:phil.griffin@asn-1.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:18 PM
> To: Hal Lockhart
> Cc: 'Karl F. Best'; chairs
> Subject: Re: [chairs] relations with W3C
>
>
> Hal,
>
> It is not quite true that "All the OASIS Security-related
> TCs have a relationship with the security-related activities
> at W3C." This is not true for XCBF, which has its closest
> ties perhaps to ANSI X9 security activities and the emerging
> XML work being done there.
>
> In particular XCBF has ties to the X9F4 Security Applications
> group for X9.84 and to the X9F3 Cryptographic Protocols group
> working on X9.96 XML CMS, an alternative to the W3C XMLDSIG
> effort. There's also reliance on the work of ITU-T SG17 for
> their ASN.1 schema for XML markup, which XCBF will use to try
> to harmonize the two binary message formats for biometrics
> specified in the NIST CBEFF work.
>
> So, I think it would be helpful to start out with the view
> that while we share some common interests (promoting OASIS as
> an important standards organization, trying to broaden its
> appeal, its scope and the use of its standards), but that these
> interests are not across the board.
>
> Some of what each of us do, both within and outside of OASIS
> may not be of much interest to all of the others. In my work
> with various security-related standards bodies, I tend to wear
> many hats.
>
> Phil
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>
>
> > Hal Lockhart wrote:
> >
> > Karl,
> >
> > All the OASIS Security-related TCs have a relationship with the
> > security-related activities at W3C. Existing liaisons have been
> > facilitated by the significant overlap in participants. A
> > comprehensive discussion of all the relationships would require
> > considerable analysis and probably would include some controversial
> > points.
> >
> > Focusing spacifically on SAML and XACML, both are dependant on XML
> > signature. Both intend to encorporate XML encryption, once it is
> > reasonably complete. Both could be used in conjunction with
> XKMS, but
> > the coupling is much more indirect.
> >
> > A much more significant dependancy is that SAML and XACML
> are defined
> > using XML Schema. XACML is also making significant use of XPATH.
> >
> > SAML is expected to be used in a Web Services environment (among
> > others). SAML is defining both a Binding and a Profile
> (SAML-specific
> > terms) for SOAP. The intention is to update one or both of these for
> > XML Protocol when it matures.
> >
> > A SAML WSDL file has been proposed.
> >
> > I think those are the major interrelationships.
> >
> > Hal
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:20 PM
> > > To: chairs
> > > Subject: [chairs] relations with W3C
> > >
> > >
> > > Chairs:
> > >
> > > The managements of OASIS and of W3C have been in conversation the
> > last
> > > couple of months about how the two organizations could better
> > > be working
> > > together. As part of our discussions W3C has asked for
> > > specific problems
> > > or concerns that should be addressed.
> > >
> > > In preparation for our next meeting at the end of next week I
> > > would like
> > > to hear from any of the OASIS TCs that now have or could have
> > > a liaison
> > > relationship with a W3C working group or activity, or whose
> > technical
> > > work in some way overlaps or relates to their work.
> > >
> > > Please let me know what specific issues your TC may have including
> > but
> > > not limited to obstacles to working together, divergent goals, IP
> > > issues, scheduling issues, what groups you need to work with, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > </karl>
> > > =================================================================
> > > Karl F. Best
> > > OASIS - Director, Technical Operations
> > > +1 978.667.5115 x206
> > > karl.best@oasis-open.org  http://www.oasis-open.org
> > >
> > >
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