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Subject: RE: [chairs] TC mailing list guidelines
James: Also: > > 1. It's misleading and confusing to call it a comment list > > when it's really a discussion list. Well, no it's not. It really is a comment list. This is supposed to be a one-way pipe to get public comments into the TC. Admittedly some TCs have stretched this a bit to make them discussion lists, which I haven't fought too much against, but the original (and true) purpose is comments. </karl> ================================================================= Karl F. Best OASIS - Director, Technical Operations +1 978.667.5115 x206 karl.best@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:42 AM > To: James Clark; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [chairs] TC mailing list guidelines > > > James: > > The only reason I've required subscriptions to these lists is to keep > the spam out. We're been hit *hard* by bots collecting email addresses > from our site, and any of the lists that I've opened even for a short > period of time to non-subscribers gets hit with spam. > > I note that you're not volunteering to moderate a public > comment/discussion list for your TC. Neither am I. If you can find > someone to moderate it I'll open it up. Otherwise we'll have > to require > subscriptions. > > </karl> > ================================================================= > Karl F. Best > OASIS - Director, Technical Operations > +1 978.667.5115 x206 > karl.best@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Clark [mailto:jjc@jclark.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:08 PM > > To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org > > Subject: [chairs] TC mailing list guidelines > > > > > > I wonder whether I am alone in finding the current OASIS > > guidelines on TC > > mailing lists to be unsatisfactory. The current guidelines are at > > > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/guidelines.shtml#maillist > > > > What I find unsatisfactory is the way public mailing lists > > are handled. > > The guidelines recommend a single public mailing list named > > *-comment for > > "general public discussion of the TC work", which anybody can > > subscribe to, > > but only subcribers can post to. I have two problems with this: > > > > 1. It's misleading and confusing to call it a comment list > > when it's really > > a discussion list. > > > > 2. There ought to be a way for people to submit comments on > > specs without > > subscribing to a mailing list. > > > > The RELAX NG specs say that comments should be sent to the > > RELAX NG comment > > mailing list. I regularly get complaints from people who try > > to submit > > comments but get their message bounced because they are not > > subscribers. > > People expect the *-comment lists to work like the W3C > > *-comment lists, > > where anybody can post without subcription. > > > > We should not be erecting barriers that make it inconvenient > > for people to > > submit comments on our specifications. The kind of people we > > particularly > > want to get comments from are typically overwhelmed with > > email already and > > are reluctant to subscribe to a mailing list just to submit > a comment. > > > > I believe it is very important that there should be *-comment > > lists that > > anybody can post to. It is highly desirable that such lists are > > spam-filtered either by software or by human (no, I'm not > > volunteering!). > > These should be open to subscription only by TC members. > > Typically the > > chair would appoint a TC member to monitor the comment lists > > and collate > > comments for TC consideration. I would also be in favour of > > having a public > > discussion list appropriately named. > > > > James > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> >
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