RE: [chairs] public comment web form

["Drummond Reed" <drummond.reed@onename.com>]

Rich framed the question much better than I. Dropping active public
comment lists appears to be a step down in openness. That's generally
not a good thing. Are there particular reasons driving the change?
 
=Drummond 
XRI TC Chair
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Thompson [mailto:richt2@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:12 PM
To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [chairs] public comment web form
 

So if I understand the design: 
 - There will no longer be a -comment email list one can subscribe to 
 - There will be a web form for submitting comments 
 - These comments will be emailed to the chair and appended to a
publically accessible archive 

This maintains accountability, but is a drop on the openness front.
Still accountable because anyone can go search the -comment archive, but
less open as many fewer will do that than who subscribe to the -comment
lists today. 

I guess I would back up and question why it is a problem for the public
email list to be a discussion forum. Have there been instances where
this was distractive to the work of the TC or perhaps used
inappropriately by some members of the public? Other reasons driving the
change? 

Rich Thompson
OASIS WSRP TC Chair 



 
"Karl F. Best" <karl.best@oasis-open.org> 
09/04/2003 02:01 PM 
Please respond to karl.best 
        
        To:        Rich Thompson/Watson/IBM@IBMUS 
        cc:        chairs@lists.oasis-open.org 
        Subject:        Re: [chairs] public comment web form



The submitted comment will be forwarded to the chair as well as put in 
the -comment archive. So there will still be the same accountability for

the comments received.

-Karl


Rich Thompson wrote:
> 
> One could always argue that the chair can forward the comment with a 
> reply to the TC mail list rather than a private response. I was more 
> concerned that this takes what was an open communication (posting to
an 
> email list) and turns it into a private communication (email to the 
> chair). This seems to go against the open nature of OASIS.
> 
> Rich Thompson
> OASIS WSRP TC Chair
> 
> 
> "Drummond Reed" <drummond.reed@onename.com>
> 
> 09/04/2003 01:27 PM
> 
>        
>         To:        <lauren@textuality.com>,
<chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
>         cc:        "Gabe Wachob (E-mail)" <gwachob@visa.com>
>         Subject:        RE: [chairs] public comment web form
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Karl,
> 
> I agree with Lauren. At least a limited form of public discussion
seems
> like a valuable portion of what OASIS provides. What was the board's
> thinking on this?
> 
> =Drummond
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lauren Wood [mailto:lauren@textuality.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:02 AM
> To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [chairs] public comment web form
> 
> Karl wrote:
> 
> * The TC's public comment list is replaced with a "means to collect
> public comments", which will be a web form. (This is to prevent the
> comment list from being used as a discussion list.) Comments
> collected by the web form will go to the chairs. I'm having the web
> forms built  now and will announce to the comment lists when this
> change will take place.  
> 
> 
> Karl,
> 
> how do we then ask clarifying questions, or make quick replies (along
> the lines of "see section 2.1. in the spec - isn't that clear
> enough?"
> 
> I can understand not wanting full discussions, but we often do need
> clarifying discussions to know what the comment provider really
> meant. And I'd rather not have that take place in private email.
> 
> Lauren
> 
> ---
> Lauren Wood, Textuality
> Chair, ER TC
> 
> 
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