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Subject: Re: [regrep] Re: [chairs] Re: [regrep] [Fwd: ObjectRef andRegistryObject need common base type]

Karl, Farrukh, All,

I neglected to mention in my last post, that I agree that protecting 
us from Spam is essential, and welcome, and my comments have no 
relation to that, which I agree is beneficial.


At 10:06 AM -0400 9/26/03, Farrukh Najmi wrote:
>Karl F. Best wrote:
>>Rex, Farrukh:
>>It's been the case for quite some time now that a person must 
>>subscribe to the comment list in order to post a comment. I know 
>>that it sounds silly to require this, but we've got to keep the 
>>spam off the lists and out of the archives, and the only other 
>>method is to moderate all of the comment lists and I haven't heard 
>>anyone volunteer to handle them all.
>Having to manage several lists on the web I now completely 
>understand the rationale Karl presents for requiring subsription to 
>all OASIS mailing lists. This has been the most effective way to 
>eliminate automatically generated spam on a mailing list in my 
>I certainly feel comfortable that this policy is to protect us from 
>SPAM and not motivated by any other sinister motives.
>Thanks for the explaination Karl.
>>We are putting together a web form that can be used to submit 
>>comments; I hope that we can launch this pretty quickly (we're also 
>>working on a couple other things at the same time). Once we have 
>>this then the guy on the street won't need to subscribe in order to 
>>send just one comment.
>>Rex Brooks wrote:
>>>I caught this on the ebxml registry list and while I have not 
>>>checked on the actual procedures in place with regard to the 
>>>current manifestation of OASIS poolicy on the public comment 
>>>lists, I find this unexceptional. With apologies to OASIS, I have 
>>>to say that I find the current policy to have, in effect, killed 
>>>the public comment lists, to the detriment of the TCs and OASIS at 
>>>large at a time when many of us are trying our best to improve the 
>>>stature of OASIS in the arena of standards bodies. This is a 
>>>shame, and I must admit that I have, in effect, also thrown in the 
>>>towel because it is a fight that I doubt we can win. The official 
>>>mind is made up, and regardless of the rationale, the effect may 
>>>already be irreversible. After more than two years of working on 
>>>the Human Markup Language, I have concluded that one would be 
>>>foolish to stand in the line of fire when any human being or group 
>>>of humans decides to shoot itself in the foot.
>>>As Pogo observed, "We have met the enemy and it is us."
>>>Ciao, but sadly,
>>>At 10:00 PM -0600 9/25/03, Monica Martin wrote:
>>>>Farrukh Najmi wrote:
>>>>>It seems that the regrep-comments list is now requiring that the 
>>>>>sender be subscribed? This does not seem right. Should we not 
>>>>>allow an external commenter to send comments unimpeded? I could 
>>>>>not even figure out how to tell Mei Zhao to subscribe. Kathryn, 
>>>>>could you please look into a solution to this recurring problem.
>>>>>In any event the issue/suggestion below seems to make good sense 
>>>>>from an OO stand point.
>>>>mm1: On the suggestion, sounds reasonable.  On the issue about 
>>>>comment list, I seem to remember some kind of an issue with Kavi 
>>>>and the fact that the comment signup was either not intuitive or 
>>>>didn't work correctly.  The webmaster should know on the system 
>>>>aspects. As to the change in process, I can't answer there.
>>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the 
>>>>roster of the OASIS TC), go to 

Rex Brooks
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