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Subject: RE: [chairs] SPAM


As a corporate rep to OASIS, you get notified whenever anyone from your company signs up for an OASIS account (or maybe it's whenever they join a TC - I can't remember). 

 

Anyway - I ALWAYS send them folks from my company a note when they sign up that IF they ever post to a TC list, they need to know that the consequence of that is that they will probably begin receiving spam (if they aren't already getting it).

 

Most of them subsequently never post to the lists because of this and won't do so unless some obfuscation is put in place to at least make it more difficult for spammers to harvest their email.  And personally, I don't blame them.

 

Rob Philpott
Senior Consulting Engineer 
RSA Security Inc.
Tel: 781-515-7115
Mobile: 617-510-0893
Fax: 781-515-7020
mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com

-----Original Message-----
From: William Z Pope [mailto:zpope@pobox.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:36 AM
To: Heather Kreger; Cruikshank, David W
Cc: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [chairs] SPAM

 

But are you in favor of making that same choice for other people who are not as published? 

Should we warn people who are joining OASIS TCs that the email they give is now public and

will shortly be polluted?

 

=bill

-----Original Message-----
From: Heather Kreger [mailto:kreger@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:24 PM
To: Cruikshank, David W
Cc: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [chairs] SPAM

Yes, I see that as well, spam spoofing my id as the origin.

I can't resist adding my two cents...
I think that obfuscating IDs on the OASIS site is too little too late. Our IDs have already been harvested,
I'm sure that changing them now won't remove them from the spammer's lists. I'm pretty sure that they
don't scrub their lists of invalid ids.

Its way too late for me (and probably many of you) now anyways, I am on too many mailing lists in too many organizations, not to speak of
presentations and articles that publish author emails IDs as well.

I think that the hassle of filtering and deleting is worth the opportunities I've had to interact with people not directly involved in
our work and if I had the choice of publishing an obfuscated ID or clear text ID, I would publish the clear text ID.

Heather Kreger
STSM, Web Services Lead Architect for SWG Emerging Technologies
Author of "Java and JMX: Building Manageable Systems"
kreger@us.ibm.com
919-543-3211 (t/l 441) cell:919-496-9572

To: <karl.best@oasis-open.org>, "Eve L. Maler" <Eve.Maler@Sun.COM>
cc: <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: RE: [chairs] SPAM



And so it's not just the span that I see.....I think my email address is being harvested to send spam to other sites.....and I get notices from them that I am sending spam...Is this consistant with what others are seeing??

thx...Dave Cruikshank
Technical Fellow - Graphics/Digital Data Interchange
Boeing Commercial Airplane
206.544.8876, fax 206.544.9590
david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:49 AM
To: Eve L. Maler
Cc: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [chairs] SPAM


That's part of what I'm trying to figure out: how often and how
important is it for the guy on the street to be able to respond to a
person who wrote a message? When would someone respond privately rather
than by sending a comment to the TC?

-Karl


Eve L. Maler wrote:
> I had been assuming that the Slashdot email-obscuring mechanism was
> automatic, though I can understand your lack of interest in it if it's
> not automatic...
>
> Does the OASIS identifier idea mean that ordinary OASIS members won't be
> able to look at the archive and figure out how to contact someone who
> wrote a particular mail message?  That would be a real shame.
>
>     Eve
>
> Karl F. Best wrote:
>
>> David:
>>
>> I like the idea. It would require a bit of extra processing for each
>> message to match the sender with the Kavi database. The big problem,
>> though, is that we don't have membership numbers; the "key" or unique
>> identifier in the database is the email address.
>>
>> But this might have some merit anyway. We'll think about what might be
>> possible.
>>
>> -Karl
>
>


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