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Subject: Re: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision ofTC Process

Any OASIS member will be able to join a TC.

A TC member will have read-write privileges in the list.

A TC member can request to become a voting member, in which case, and in
which case only, the TC member will have to meet attendance criteria in
order to continue being a voting member. (IOW, if the attendace criteria
are not met the member reverts to general non-voting status, without leaving
the TC).

All TC members will be subject to the IPR Policy as it applies to the
TC's mode.

Any OASIS member can become a TC Observer. Such Observer will have
only read privileges, and no obligations under the IPR Policy as it
applies to the TC's mode.

Because becoming a TC member now has clear IPR implications and obligations,
it would be a bad idea to convert people automatically from observers to
members. This must be done in a proactive manner, and with the approval, in
the case of organizational members, of the organization's representative.
(In that sense [and in that sense only] this is similar to accepted policy
in other organizations, e.g. W3C)

We really need an FAQ. I thought there was one already out for review,
but obviously I was wrong...

On 10/12/2004 04:56 PM, Newcomer, Eric wrote:
> Eduardo,
> Do you mean that the new process doesn't change the ability of anyone to join a TC and participate as a non-voting member?  So the proposed change is simply a renaming of the type of member, not the elimination of a membership category?
> Thanks,
> Eric
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eduardo Gutentag [mailto:Eduardo.Gutentag@Sun.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:26 PM
> To: Philpott, Robert
> Cc: karl.best@oasis-open.org; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org;
> security-services@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed
> revision of TC Process
> But Rob, if you read the new process carefully, you will discover that
> you can be a TC member without being a voting member (that is, you can
> be a non-voting TC member without having to meet attendance criteria),
> thus being able to contribute to your heart's content as current Observers
> do.
> On 10/12/2004 03:25 PM, Philpott, Robert wrote:
>>I would like to express serious concerns with the proposed change to the
>>TC process that means that TC observers would no longer be able to post
>>to the TC's mailing list.
>>From the current process: "An Observer may participate in TC discussions
>>and post email messages to the TC list, but may not vote and does not
>>need to maintain attendance."
>>From the proposed process: "Observer" (or "TC Observer") is an Eligible
>>Person who is subscribed to the TC email list, and may attend TC
>>meetings, but is not allowed to participate in TC email list
>>discussions, participate or speak in TC meetings, or make Contributions
>>to the TC. The process for becoming an Observer is defined in the
>>section "TC Membership and Participation".
>>I STRONGLY disagree with making this change.  The SSTC has over 260
>>members, of which 40-50 are active voting members.  However, our TC
>>regularly receives valuable input on email discussion topics from
>>members that don't have currently active voting status.  These postings
>>are from folks such as those in other TC's that monitor our list because
>>those TC's have some dependency on ours. Requiring folks to find some
>>other mechanism to provide their input simply throws up barriers in
>>front of them and will in all likelihood result in us not receiving that
>>input at all.
>>The input from these members is very important to us.  I believe this to
>>be a bad change of policy that goes against the open, free exchange of
>>ideas that we rely on.
>>Rob Philpott
>>Senior Consulting Engineer 
>>RSA Security Inc. 
>>Tel: 781-515-7115 
>>Mobile: 617-510-0893 
>>Fax: 781-515-7020 
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]
>>>Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:10 AM
>>>To: members
>>>Subject: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC
>>>OASIS members:
>>>You're aware that the OASIS Board of Directors has been working on a
>>>revision of the OASIS IPR Policy, and you have had an opportunity to
>>>give feedback on that proposed revision.
>>>The Board has also been working on a revision of the OASIS TC Process,
>>>the document that governs the creation and operation of TCs at OASIS,
>>>and the advancement and approval of the work they do. This revision
>>>includes changes suggested by TC chairs, the Technical Advisory Board
>>>(TAB), and other members. It also includes changes required to support
>>>the new IPR Policy; because these two documents rely on each other
>>>must be revised, approved, and become effective at the same time.
>>>The Board has approved an OASIS member review of the revised Process;
>>>this review will start today and go until 10 November. A draft of the
>>>revised TC Process document approved for member review by the Board is
>>>found at
>>>A document summarizing the changes from the current Process is at
>>>Please send your comments in regards to these proposed changes to
>>>tcproc-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org by 10 November, so that the
>>>Board can consider your comments, make changes to this draft, and have
>>>the Process document ready to be effective at the same time as the new
>>>IPR Policy.
>>>Karl F. Best
>>>Vice President, OASIS
>>>office  +1 978.667.5115 x206     mobile +1 978.761.1648
>>>karl.best@oasis-open.org      http://www.oasis-open.org
>>>This email list is used solely by OASIS for official consortium
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>>>member_services@oasis-open.org, however, all members are strongly
>>>encouraged to maintain a subscription to this list.

Eduardo Gutentag               |         e-mail: eduardo.gutentag@Sun.COM
Web Technologies and Standards |         Phone:  +1 510 550 4616 (internal x31442)
Sun Microsystems Inc.          |         W3C AC Rep / W3C AB / OASIS BoD

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