Re: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposedrevision of TC Process

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

Will do.

Ciao,
Rex

At 2:20 PM -0400 10/14/04, Karl F. Best wrote:
>Rex, Norm, Matt, others:
>
>Thanks for the input and comments; I appreciate hearing your 
>responses to this. May I ask that you please send your formal 
>comments to the email list set up for this purpose? That way the 
>Board Process committee can (accountably) address comments made.
>
>As announced on the 11th:
>
>>  Please send your comments in regards to these proposed changes to
>>  tcproc-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org by 10 November, so that
>>  the Board can consider your comments, make changes to this draft,
>>  and have the Process document ready to be effective at the same
>>  time as the new IPR Policy.
>
>thanks
>-Karl
>
>
>Rex Brooks wrote:
>>The more I think about this, the more onerous it becomes. I 
>>understand the need to have accountability that is underneath this 
>>requirement, but compatibility with previous efforts tends to make 
>>it unworkable as an absolute restriction. There are also external 
>>efforts associated with TC standards efforts, such as FreebXML 
>>hosted on SourceForge, as are other efforts, where testbeds are 
>>required to test the workability and interoperability of standards, 
>>quite apart from associated collateral materials that we 
>>development as individuals or as companies, things like white 
>>papers, glossaries, etc., that are not strictly OASIS contributions 
>>but which form part of the bulwark of materials that support a 
>>standard or set of standards and are indispensable to promotion and 
>>adoption of a standard.
>>
>>This all requires much more thought.
>>
>>Ciao,
>>Rex
>>
>>At 9:21 AM -0400 10/14/04, Norman Walsh wrote:
>>
>>>/ Matthew MacKenzie <mattm@adobe.com> was heard to say:
>>>| "All resources of the TC and its associated
>>>| subcommittees, including web pages, documents, email
>>>| lists and any other discussions, must be located only
>>>| on facilities provided by OASIS; TCs and SCs may not
>>>| conduct business or technical discussions, store
>>>| documents, or host web pages on non-OASIS servers. All
>>>| web pages, documents, and email archives of all TCs
>>>| and SCs shall be publicly visible."
>>>|
>>>| So...will OASIS also be providing us with email accounts?  I suggest
>>>| softening this passage considerably because at the end of the day if
>>>| OASIS restricts the tools we use,  many of us will end up finding a
>>>| new home for our standards work.
>>>
>>>Indeed. Quoting the message I sent to the review list[1] before I
>>>noticed that discussion was taking place here:
>>>
>>>>   All resources of the TC and its associated subcommittees, including
>>>>   web pages, documents, email lists and any other discussions, must be
>>>>   located only on facilities provided by OASIS; TCs and SCs may not
>>>>   conduct business or technical discussions, store documents, or host
>>>>   web pages on non-OASIS servers.
>>>>
>>>>By a strict interpretation of this clause, I am forbidden from
>>>>mirroring the DocBook specifications and schemas on docbook.org. Is
>>>>that the intent? Or is the intent merely that no TC content may appear
>>>>solely on non-OASIS servers?
>>>>
>>>>Suppose a third party, unaffiliated with OASIS or the TC constructs
>>>>such a mirror? Will OASIS pursue having those materials removed from
>>>>the mirror?
>>>
>>>
>>>I feel compelled also to note that this requirement places a
>>>considerable burden on chairs and secretaries coming as it does in
>>>advance of an improved (i.e. useful and workable) document repository
>>>administered by OASIS.
>>>
>>>                                         Be seeing you,
>>>                                           norm
>>>
>>>[1] 
>>>http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tcproc-member-review/200410/msg00001.html
>>>
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