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Subject: Re: [chairs] Voting 2/3

On Jul 27, 2005, at 10:25 AM, David Webber ((XML)) wrote:

> The reality is that nothing is going to be done about this.

As a member of the Process SubCommittee, which for the last 2 months 
has been discussing and trying to come up with a better algorithm which 
balances the needs and complicated trade-offs across the organization, 
chairs, simplicity, IPR accountability, enforceability, etc., I must be 
living in a different reality.

I'm under the impression that we are actually pretty close to proposing 
a change in the attendance rules, that I hope will strike a reasonable 


> The only solution is to have non-meetings thru the summer,
> till September - where the meetings that do occur are
> informal conference calls - not official calls.
> This has the side benefits of no minutes needed, and
> no roll-call.
> It has the negative impact that items discussed are
> non-things and so probably best not to discuss
> anything being included in spec's - just busy work
> around promoting the work of the TC and such.
> Of course if you need to do real spec' work - just make
> sure your editors and others are not planning any
> vacations... or use Kavi voting for everything (make
> sure the TC has approved that as well of course).
> DW
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philpott, Robert" <rphilpott@rsasecurity.com>
> To: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com>; 
> <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>;
> "James Bryce Clark" <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:46 PM
> Subject: RE: [chairs] Voting 2/3
> Couldn't agree more.
> I made my opinion known a couple of weeks ago and asked Jamie for an
> update.  I got no response:
>> Jamie - can you update us on whether or not the meeting attendance
>> rule is going to get changed and when that might happen?
> This is creating lots of extra work for chairs/secretaries of the TC's
> and needs to get changes ASAP, IMO.
> Jamie - please respond.
> Rob Philpott
> Senior Consulting Engineer
> RSA Security Inc.
> Tel: 781-515-7115
> Mobile: 617-510-0893
> Fax: 781-515-7020
> Email: rphilpott@rsasecurity.com
> I-name:  =Rob.Philpott
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:19 PM
>> To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; James Bryce Clark
>> Subject: [chairs] Voting 2/3
>> All/Jamie:
>> My TC's number of voting members has now dropped to below 30 out of
> 110
>> members and observers.  IMO - a lot of this is due to the 2/3 rule and
>> the fact it is summer.  Many in my TC have expressed that the rule is
>> not fair and would prefer to move to a different metric, perhaps only
>> loosing voting privileges if you miss 2 in a row.  Attendance at every
>> other meeting seems to be more than adequate to retain knowledge of
> the
>> TC work given the traffic on the lists and other informal meetings.
> We
>> have a few members who have been extremely active that are now on
>> probation.
>> I want to ask again if OASIS is going to open this up for further
>> discussion?
>> Is there any chair opposed to further discussion on this matter?
>> Duane Nickull
>> Senior Standards Strategist
>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
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