RE: [chairs] KAVI: Better control over "documents" display on frontpage

["Drummond Reed" <drummond.reed@cordance.net>]

Well, now that the Pandora's box is open... ;-)

Seriously, we were just discussing this very matter on an XRI TC call and
chaffed for the nth time about the fact that the Kavi system produces two
different URLs for every document -- one for private access via members and
one for public access. Getting TC members to remember to use the public URL
in emails, blog posts, etc. is just short of murder (even I, who have done
this 100's of times, screw up at least once a month).

So I have to ask: is there any really strong justification for the
members-only URLs? Life would be so much easier if there were just the
public URLs...

However, even if the answer to that question is Yes, it would be ideal if
BOTH URLs were given on the Members view of the document repository. That
way it would be much easier to remember to select the right URL from that
page, and not constantly have to switch back and forth between the Member
and Public view of the doc repository.

Finally, I want to strongly second Eve's suggestion that the public
interface to the docs repository should have the same features as the
member's interface. Arguably it is the public that more often needs to
retrieve an older TC document, or search for TC documents by category (TC
members typically need to work primarily with the most recent versions.)

=Drummond 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott McGrath [mailto:scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:36 PM
To: Eve.Maler@Sun.COM
Cc: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [chairs] KAVI: Better control over "documents" display on
frontpage

No argument from me, though I'm not going to forward your comment to the
development team.  They've heard this comment loud and clear already.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eve.Maler@Sun.COM [mailto:Eve.Maler@Sun.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:13 PM
> To: Scott McGrath
> Cc: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [chairs] KAVI: Better control over "documents" display on
> frontpage
> 
> It would be a start if you simply let the public repository
> interface look a lot more like the members-only interface, with
> categories intact...  I've never understood why the public one is so
> much more limited (and different) than the member one.
> 
> 	Eve
> 
> Scott McGrath wrote:
> > David,
> >
> >
> >
> > Timely input.  We are working on the new Doc Management System and
> > getting to UI issues.  I'm forwarding your input to the developers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:38 PM
> > *To:* chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
> > *Subject:* [chairs] KAVI: Better control over "documents" display on
> > frontpage
> >
> >
> >
> > I just directed someone to my TC "documents" link to find our latest
> > Committee draft spec'.
> >
> >
> >
> > Well - the user experience was not optimal!
> >
> >
> >
> > It would be fantastic if the list of 10 docs that displays by default on
> > the home page could be controlled in some way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Clearly Approved spec's, Committee drafts should be on top of the list -
> > sorted by date within those categories (they are not currently - even
> > when you manually request that Category sort from the Kavi UI).
> >
> >
> >
> > If Kavi had someway for us to set this now - using a config file of some
> > sort - that we can edit - that would be a major plus!
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, DW
> >
> 
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