RE: [chairs] KAVI: Better control over "documents" display on frontpage

["Scott McGrath" <scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org>]

Again, no argument from me, and no action taken.  This was on the list of
"things to do right next time" a looong time ago ;-)  Fortunately, "next
time" is coming along quickly.

Scott...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drummond Reed [mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:39 PM
> To: 'Scott McGrath'; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: 'Wachob, Gabe'
> Subject: RE: [chairs] KAVI: Better control over "documents" display on
> frontpage
> 
> Well, now that the Pandora's box is open... ;-)
> 
> Seriously, we were just discussing this very matter on an XRI TC call and
> chaffed for the nth time about the fact that the Kavi system produces two
> different URLs for every document -- one for private access via members
> and
> one for public access. Getting TC members to remember to use the public
> URL
> in emails, blog posts, etc. is just short of murder (even I, who have done
> this 100's of times, screw up at least once a month).
> 
> So I have to ask: is there any really strong justification for the
> members-only URLs? Life would be so much easier if there were just the
> public URLs...
> 
> However, even if the answer to that question is Yes, it would be ideal if
> BOTH URLs were given on the Members view of the document repository. That
> way it would be much easier to remember to select the right URL from that
> page, and not constantly have to switch back and forth between the Member
> and Public view of the doc repository.
> 
> Finally, I want to strongly second Eve's suggestion that the public
> interface to the docs repository should have the same features as the
> member's interface. Arguably it is the public that more often needs to
> retrieve an older TC document, or search for TC documents by category (TC
> members typically need to work primarily with the most recent versions.)
> 
> =Drummond
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott McGrath [mailto:scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:36 PM
> To: Eve.Maler@Sun.COM
> Cc: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [chairs] KAVI: Better control over "documents" display on
> frontpage
> 
> No argument from me, though I'm not going to forward your comment to the
> development team.  They've heard this comment loud and clear already.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eve.Maler@Sun.COM [mailto:Eve.Maler@Sun.COM]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:13 PM
> > To: Scott McGrath
> > Cc: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: Re: [chairs] KAVI: Better control over "documents" display on
> > frontpage
> >
> > It would be a start if you simply let the public repository
> > interface look a lot more like the members-only interface, with
> > categories intact...  I've never understood why the public one is so
> > much more limited (and different) than the member one.
> >
> > 	Eve
> >
> > Scott McGrath wrote:
> > > David,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Timely input.  We are working on the new Doc Management System and
> > > getting to UI issues.  I'm forwarding your input to the developers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:38 PM
> > > *To:* chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > *Subject:* [chairs] KAVI: Better control over "documents" display on
> > > frontpage
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I just directed someone to my TC "documents" link to find our latest
> > > Committee draft spec'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well - the user experience was not optimal!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It would be fantastic if the list of 10 docs that displays by default
> on
> > > the home page could be controlled in some way.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Clearly Approved spec's, Committee drafts should be on top of the list
> -
> > > sorted by date within those categories (they are not currently - even
> > > when you manually request that Category sort from the Kavi UI).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If Kavi had someway for us to set this now - using a config file of
> some
> > > sort - that we can edit - that would be a major plus!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, DW
> > >
> >
> > --
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> > Technology Director                           eve.maler @ sun.com
> > CTO Business Alliances group                Sun Microsystems, Inc.
>