+1 on TCs arranging their own resources. To reiterate
my earlier comments on this:
Please note that the cost
of funding calls has not been an issue for the UDDI TC which has
been composed over the course of its (short of) 3 years of operation from
representatives from industry, academia and individual contributors from many
parts of the world.
We've been running under an unwritten rule
that industry will host the calls, and that any and all industry participants
big/small need to contribute. This is not an entirely equitable approach but
one that has worked for us and many others I
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Sorry – but I have to
disagree with this in principle. Yes – Skype is good and the cost is very
low but I do not think that OASIS should bother with the overhead of being a
conference call sponsor. Simply put, the costs will be greater than if we
continue organizing it ourselves and that cost has no other place to be passed
on than to us, the members.
IMO – it is much more
efficient for each TC to arrange their own resources for meetings. Let
OASIS keep focused on major issues like IPR, working with other SDO’s, providing
the web infrastructure (WIKI’s etc).
My $0.02 CAD
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'Barbara Erbes'; Chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; Scott McGrath
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference
Just a quick supplemental thought - internet technology
could be changing this landscape (again).
I just purchased a standalone Skype phone by
Linksys / Cisco (not Skype thru the PC speakers et al). The quality
is dramatically better with Skype V2 than it was last year on Skype
OASIS could consider setting up local Skype dial-in
numbers in each member country?
The cost for each is modest. Maybe Cisco / Skype could
sponsor that for us?
-------- Original Message
Subject: Re: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services
Date: Mon, May 22, 2006
To: "Scott McGrath" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Michael Winters, our IBM
OASIS Board member is in favor of OASIS providing telecomm services, as well.
If OASIS is striving to internationalize its membership more assertively,
there should not be a penalty for calling in from countries that today have
the fewest participation.
Program Director, IBM ODF Initiative
Business & Technical
IBM Software Group
Reminder of the Teleconference
questionnaire. If you have replied – thanks. If not, here is your
heard the dialogue on the Chairs list about the problems Committee
teleconference costs pose for members – both for international participants
who dial in and for member organizations who volunteer to host calls.
OASIS is investigating options for funding Committee conference
calls out of member dues. We have conducted a preliminary analysis based on
postings to our central events calendar, information from our member
databases, and the service quotes of several service providers. This research
indicates that the annual cost of providing fully internationalized services
for every call of every Committee, could exceed 10% of our total operating
budget (over 250,000 USD annually).
light of the extraordinary costs involved, it is vital that we take the time
to fully understand the expectations and circumstances of all our Committees,
so that we might identify alternatives to manage costs while still addressing
the majority of your needs.
To that end, we’re
asking a representative of each OASIS Committee to spend five minutes
answering the following 16 questions on teleconference usage. We appreciate
that in many cases, the best you can offer is an educated guess. That’s fine.
Any information you provide—even if it can’t be verified by detailed tracking
or reports—will be helpful to us.
Only one reply per TC or Sub-Committee is
needed, so please coordinate your responses with co-chairs and secretaries.
Thank you in advance for your time,
Director Member Services
Committee Teleconference Requirements Questionnaire
Committee Name: ODF Adoption TC
chair more than one Committee or Sub-Committee, please fill out this
questionnaire separately for each.)
your teleconference use:
On average, how many
teleconferences does your Committee hold each month? (4)
many minutes does your average teleconference last? (60 minutes)
Approximately how many minutes was the
longest call your Committee held in the past year? N/A
your teleconference callers:
How many callers typically participate in
your teleconferences from:
__5__ North America
Do you believe the expense of international (country-to-country)
calling is a limiting factor for OASIS Members to participate in the Committee
As a new TC, we do not have sufficient
experience to respond.
If so, can you cite specific
your existing teleconference support
Does a member of your Committee
provide teleconference hosting? Yes. If so, which member(s)? IBM.
If you are generally pleased with the
service your Committee uses most frequently, can you tell us the name of the
provider (and why you like them)?
If you are not pleased with
the service your Committee uses, can you tell us the name of the provider (and
why you are dissatisfied)?
Does the teleconference service provide toll-free IN-COUNTRY OR
INTERNATIONAL TOLL-FREE? access in some areas?
teleconference service provide local numbers in more than one country?
Can you offer any advice about other
services you tried and discontinued?
provided conferencing services, but IBM now uses its own VOIP technology and
has migrated to it.
future teleconference use and support
Given your current situation and the impact to OASIS in doing so, do
you think OASIS should provide teleconference services, funded by member dues?
If OASIS could provide only limited resources to
solve the largest problems inhibiting member participation, what do you think
reasonable bounds would be?
Indicate your acceptance of the
following suggestions, on a scale of 1 to 5
Meaning you would accept the idea, 1 being you would not accept the
_5__OASIS would provide international
service with in-country dial-in for all Committees, all calls.
_2_OASIS would provide a local dial-in line for the country in which the
majority of Committee members reside, others members pay their
international rates to dial-in.
_4_OASIS would continue to encourage
member organizations to host Committee calls and covers the costs only when a
Committee is unable to identify a host.
_1_OASIS would encourage
Committees to use free conferencing services (such as freeconferencecall.com)
_1_OASIS would not provide any teleconference service that will have a
Any other comments or suggestions: