Re: [chairs] What can Standards Development / TC Administration do to help?

[Mike Edwards <mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com>]

Kelvin,

A big +1

WYSIWYG editors are the most productive
tools for authoring - and we do a *lot* of authoring in the TCs, in my
experience.

I'm a fan of OpenOffice, but Word is
OK too.

Other tools are possible, of course,
but they *must* be commonly available & ideally should be free or cheap.

Editing XML directly is simply unpleasant.

Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
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From:	Kelvin Lawrence <klawrenc@us.ibm.com>
To:	Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
Cc:	Bob Freund <Bob.Freund@hitachisoftware.com>, "chairs@lists.oasis-open.org" <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>, Frederick Hirsch <frederick.hirsch@nokia.com>, Dave Ings <ings@ca.ibm.com>
Date:	22/04/2010 20:39
Subject:	Re: [chairs] What can Standards Development / TC Administration do to help?

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As much as I am an XML advocate, requiring
the use of an XML editor or a text editor like Vi to author documents is
a major non starter for me. I want to be able to use my word processor
to edit WYSIWIG style. One of the things I have always found hard at W3C
is that specs are authored in XML and then processed by style sheets to
produce the specs. While it is a great use of the technology, it is not
the easiest way for an editor to work especially as will be the case in
many TCs an editor not skilled in the art of working in native XML but
very comfortable using a word processor type app. 


Cheers
Kelvin

From:	Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
To:	Frederick Hirsch <frederick.hirsch@nokia.com>
Cc:	Bob Freund <Bob.Freund@hitachisoftware.com>, Dave Ings <ings@ca.ibm.com>, "chairs@lists.oasis-open.org" <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date:	04/22/2010 02:30 PM
Subject:	Re: [chairs] What can Standards Development / TC Administration do to help?

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There's a few free XML editors out there, or maybe a handful of companies
would like to make their products available for use by TC members.

Mary 



On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Frederick Hirsch wrote:

> I see the benefit of automation of publication checking and tool driven
production of various output formats.  This also might make useful
templates easier to work with.
> 
> What about authoring tools, or would editors be working in ed/vi/emacs
(not that all mind doing so)?
> 
> regards, Frederick
> 
> Frederick Hirsch
> Nokia
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:57 PM, ext Mary McRae wrote:
> 
>> Agreed. How would the chairs feel about mandating all specs be
created in an OASIS XML format?
>> 
>> m
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Bob Freund wrote:
>> 
>>> How much of this review might be automated?
>>> might be a lot if we had an xml publication format.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Dave Ings wrote:
>>> 
>>>> +1
>>>> 
>>>> This would really cut down on the iterative churn that
seems to frustrate the people involved in the publication process. Great
idea!
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Dave Ings,
>>>> Emerging Software Standards
>>>> Email: ings@ca.ibm.com
>>>> Yahoo Messenger: dave_ings
>>>> 
>>>> <graycol.gif>Hanssens Bart ---2010/04/22 09:02:30
AM---> Would you like us to review your specifications prior to TC ballots
so you don't need to go back a
>>>> 
>>>> From:              
  Hanssens Bart <Bart.Hanssens@fedict.be>
>>>> To:                
Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>, "chairs@lists.oasis-open.org"
<chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>> Date:              
  2010/04/22 09:02 AM
>>>> Subject:              
  RE: [chairs] What can Standards Development / TC Administration
do to help?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> > Would you like us to review your specifications prior
to TC ballots so you don't need to go back and fix stuff afterwards?
>>>> 
>>>> That would be very helpful indeed, especially for new
TC's / people submitting specifications for the first time...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards
>>>> 
>>>> Bart
>>> 
>> 
>

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