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Subject: RE: [chairs] Problems with pranksters on TC calls


The Lync server is on a Microsoft platform but there are clients, desktop and mobile, for many devices and platforms, including Mac, Android, etc. Depending on the host, there is also full PABX support so that you can dial in.

I think Ken's point is that with a conferencing system - be it Lync, WebEx, or other - the facility of having a "waiting room/lobby" can help check known people in (and implicitly keep out others) but it may be overkill

The alternative is to publish the dial-in number but keep the participant code known only to members and observers (using a mnemonic for the code helps too...)

Cheers,
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie Fenwick [mailto:valerie.fenwick@oracle.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 04 June, 2013 14:28
To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [chairs] Problems with pranksters on TC calls

Many of us that call into these meetings are not on MS platforms, though.

Like I noted earlier, sending the dialin information out via bcc seems to keep this problem in check.

we send via bcc, because when we did otherwise, offlist discussions started, as people did reply-to-all, and we want discussions archived.

Valerie

On 6/4/2013 2:24 PM, Ken Laskey wrote:
> This seems to be THE new problem.  See 
> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/02/anonymous-scotland-yard/.
>
> Part of the solution is the annoying lobby feature on things like 
> Microsoft Lync.  As often as not, you will be stranding someone you 
> want to let in because you didn't notice they got there after a 
> consuming discussion got started.
>
> Ken
>
>   -------------------------------------------------------
> Dr. Kenneth Laskey
> MITRE Corporation, M/S H305             phone: 703-983-7934
> 7515 Colshire Drive                             fax: 703-983-1379
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>
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org 
> <mailto:chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>> wrote:
>
>> Agreed. Several TCs have had to take these steps.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Peter F Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com 
>> <mailto:peter@peterfbrown.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Remember also that non-members are not allowed to join TC
>>     meetings. It is entirely appropriate that a TC Chair and Secretary
>>     take measures such as roll-call, monitoring and accounting for all
>>     people dialing in and, as Gershon states, providing dial-in
>>     details offlist and privately to all TC members and observers.
>>     Best regards,
>>     Peter
>>
>>     Sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for brevity and typos - it's
>>     hard to write on a moving planet
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     From: Gershon Janssen <mailto:gershon@qroot.com>
>>     Sent: 04/06/2013 09:21
>>     To: Kristen James Eberlein <mailto:kris@eberleinconsulting.com>
>>     Cc: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>     Subject: Re: [chairs] Problems with pranksters on TC calls
>>
>>     Hi Kristen,
>>
>>     Every TC can organize their own collaboration / dial-in
>>     facilities. Some are sponsored by large organizations, which are
>>     kindly providing dial-in facilities, and some groups use the free
>>     freeconferencecall.com <http://freeconferencecall.com/>.
>>
>>     On very few occasions I've experienced problems with uninvited or
>>     unwanted participants on bridges.
>>
>>     Probably best is to get a different conference session and
>>     password (if you use one) and share this information only in the
>>     TC calendar which is only visible to OASIS members, instead of
>>     posting it to the TC list, which are public and accessible through
>>     lists.oasis-open.org/archives <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives>.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Gershon Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Kristen James Eberlein
>>     <kris@eberleinconsulting.com <mailto:kris@eberleinconsulting.com>>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>         We are having difficulties with some pranksters calling into
>>         our weekly DITA TC meeting and being disruptive. Are any other
>>         TCs having this difficulty?
>>
>>         Best,
>>         Kris
>>
>>         Kristen James Eberlein
>>         Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
>>         Co-chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
>>         Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee
>>         www.eberleinconsulting.com <http://www.eberleinconsulting.com/>
>>         +1 919 682-2290 <tel:%2B1%20919%20682-2290>; kriseberlein 
>> (skype)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> /chet
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