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Subject: Re: [board-process] Re: [chairs] Seeking your feedback on proposed workflow changes
You really need to separate out Contribution Obligations and Participation Obligations here. Not doing that is overly confusing the matter.ÂContribution Obligations take effect when the contribution is made. IE, when the work in the TC is accomplished.ÂLeaving the TC *does not* allow you to ignore your contribution obligations. This is clearly laid out in section 9.ÂThe "escape clause" you refer to below is in regards to participation obligations. IE, you joined a TC, are watching, not doing, and at some point you realize it may be infringing on a patent of yours, you have until 7 days after the ballot to either disclose this patent or exit the TC. Logically, you have to allow for some window here, or else it becomes to dangerous for anyone to ever join a TC even to see what is happening.Â-
Jason Keirstead
Chief Architect - IBM Security Threat Management
www.ibm.com/security
Co-Chair - Open Cybersecurity Alliance, Project Governing BoardÂÂ----- Original message -----
From: Bret Jordan <bret.jordan@broadcom.com>
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To: Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>
Cc: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, Stefan Hagen <pantherleon@web.de>, "chairs@lists.oasis-open.org" <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>, OASIS Board Process Committee <board-process@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [board-process] Re: [chairs] Seeking your feedback on proposed workflow changes
Date: Tue, May 26, 2020 1:38 PM
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Not to be overly pedantic, but there is also an escape clause that you did not mention that Jamie pointed out to me. A member of a TC actually has 7 days, past the date of the ballot, to exist the TC and not be beholden to the IPR. Â So OASIS Staff should really find a way to track members that were in a TC and then left, up until 7 days past the CS ballot.ÂThanks,BretPGP Fingerprint:Â63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447 ÂF2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050"Without cryptography vihv vivc ce xhrnrw, however, the only thing that can not be unscrambled is an egg."
ÂÂOn May 26, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org> wrote:ÂAllan, sorry for the confusion. I'll do a better job of explaining.ÂÂAll work that happens here is covered by the IPR Policy. Copyright, trademarks, etc. is always applicable to anythingÂand everythingÂdone in a committee.ÂÂThe particular issue I was pointing out to Stefan is the difference between an OASIS Standards Draft Deliverable and an OASIS Standards Final Deliverable.ÂÂA Committee Specification Draft is a Standards Draft Deliverable. It is covered by theÂLIMITED PATENT COVENANT FOR DELIVERABLE DEVELOPMENT (section 6 -Âhttps://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/ipr#limitedpatent) - a limited covenant not to assert any essential claims against another TC member for the development of the work.ÂÂWhen the TC approves the CSD as a Committee Specification, it is then anÂOASIS Standards Final Deliverable. It is at that point that the obligations and commitments associated with the chosen IPR mode lock in and the obligations made by TC members apply for any conforming implementation. That was the distinction I was pointing out to Stefan. The distinction in name between Committee Spec Draft and Committee Spec is meaningful in that regard.ÂÂDoes that answer the question?ÂÂBest,ÂÂ/chetÂÂÂOn Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:28 AM Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> wrote:It doesnât ?
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How can we state that each TC operates under the IPR policy (at any stage) and then the statement that it only applies when you get to a CS?
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This makes no sense whatsoever.
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Either all the work in a TC is covered by the IPR policy or it invalidates a lot of collaboration.
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