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Subject: FW: AND makes address XML definition available to OASIS


Title: AND makes address XML definition available to OASIS

Hello CIQ'ers,

 

This seems like a very interesting thread to follow - however I do have the following remarks, and potential pitfalls I see along the way:

 

- These are *real* standardization institutes, thus not very fast. We may find their work not fitting our timelines.

- Only the UPU is a truly worldwide organization, the others are European or US only.

- We do not yet have clear insight in their goals and charter - in our CIQ kickoff meeting we have established that database development is different from development of a communications protocol, which we focus on (by agreeing on a multi-level standard, which trading partners can agree to use in a way to suit their needs).

- I agree with this gentleman that address structures are non-trivial, otherwise we not not emphasize it this much in CIQ. But recently Ram and I have compared our XML Address definitions, which had been developed in isolation from each other, and they are very compatible in many respects. I believe we can safely assume we are on the right track here.

 

Having said this, these organizations represent a wealth of knowledge that we would be wise not to ignore. I suggest I have a talk with this gentleman (after all, Arnhem is only 80 kilometers from here!). If you have any issues other than the above you would like me to take with me, please let me know.

 

Cheers,

Vincent

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Holger Wandt [mailto:h.wandt@HumanInference.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:18 AM
To: 'scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org'
Cc: Martijn Kriens; Paul Drenth
Subject: AND makes address XML definition available to OASIS

 

Dear Mr McGrath,
having read the AND press release (1 December 2000) on their XML definition for the worldwide presentation of adresses, I thought it a good idea to inform you about other developments in international standardization of addresses.

I am the chairman of the working group address databases within CEN/TC331/WG3. CEN is the European Standardization body. The task of my group is to develop a multi-part standard, covering the definition of of address components and address structures, the representation of addresses, the electronic exchange, the validation and interpretation of address data. Currently, we have completed the first part of the standard, which provides a dictionary of all possible components of postal addresses, togeteher with examples of and constraints on their use. The standard (which is in the enquiry phase of CEN at the moment) also contains a model of the specification of an address, which the working group wishes to represent in a formal language (possibly XML).

Furthermore, the United States Postal Service has made a proposal to the United Postal Union (UPU - a UN organization) to assemble a development group with a vested interest in the development of an international name and address standard. For this effort they seek the cooperation of CEN (the working group address databases), the UN/Edifact group, the Graphic Communications Association (GCA), The Direct mail Advisory Board (UPU) and the PostCode group (UPU).

During the last plenary meeting of CEN/TC331/WG3 we agreed that we will join in this effort. It will be my task to coordinate further cooperation.

Since you have recently set up the Customer Information Quality (GIQ) Technical Committee to work on cross industry XML standards, I think we should have a closer look at our common efforts.

Harmonization is very important for future implementation and having had a look at the XLM schema provided by AND, I fear that their definition is somewhat engrafted on the PAF (postal address file) data provided by Royal Mail. Mind you, I'm not an XML expert, but I'm familiar with the specific terms used in PAF.

My fear is that the CIQ technical committee will develop a standard which will eventually not match with the international address standard being developed by CEN and UPU. Therefore I would like to get in touch with the chairman of  the CIQ technical committee. Would it be possible for you to arrange an introduction? If it would be necessary, I would be willing to become an associate member of OASIS.

Should you have any further questions, feel free to contact me any time. I thank you very much for taking my questions into consideration.

Best regards,

Holger Wandt
Chairman working group Address Databases CEN/TC331/WG3
       
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