I do not understand what you mean, Ram. Are you saying the UPU does
in some cases and does not in other cases provide information about the address
structure? Please explain and give an example of what you consider as
provided and as not provided.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 5:37
PM
Subject: [ciq] FW: Global and application
independent "Name and Address XML Specification" from OASIS
CIQ TC,
FYI.
Over the weekend I have completed representing over
50% (countries beginning in
A to L) of international addresses (from
Universal Postal Union) in XML conforming to xAL V3.0.
For certain addresses, the UPU does not provide any
information about the address structure and
therefore, I am unable to codify those addresses in
XML.
Regards,
Ram
Ram Kumar
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to: e-business MoU/MG
to: K. Best, J. Clark and R. Kumar,
OASIS
to: S. Jelto, UPU
to: J.-L. Champion, UN/CEFACT TBG
ladies
and gentlemen,
++ seems we have to revisit the NAD
(Name And Address) set of issues and work items (see below)
++
as an ISO/TC154 contribution, may I recall
our Resolution 244 and Action 19 (see doc.
154n472, attached)
++ up to the e-mail below, nobody had been identified
having resources to support our action 19
++ that concerns specially TBG groups: does Jean-Luc have a proposal and/or
contact person ?
++ could we add NAD on the draft agenda of the next
e-business MoU/MG ? see http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/e-business/mou/index.html
++
last but not least, we shall keep in very close touch with Stant Jelto of UPU !
all the best,
François
===
ISO François Vuilleumier, ISO/TC154 chair + ISO7372MA
sec.
TC open trade data interchange is
our aim
154 http://www.iso.org/tc154
===
Subject: RE: Global and application
independent "Name and Address XML Specification" from OASIS
Date: Fri, 8
Oct 2004 12:47:20 +1000
Thread-Topic: Global and application independent
"Name and Address XML Specification" from OASIS
Thread-Index:
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Priority: Urgent
Importance:
high
From: "Ram Kumar" <RKumar@msi.com.au>
To: "Stant Jelto"
<jelto.stant@upu.int>
Hi Stant,
If you can recollect, we
communicated about a year ago.
Here at OASIS Customer Information
Technical Committee,
we are working on the release of the next version
(Version 3.0)
of xAL (extensible Address Language). xAL V2.0 (released in
July 2002)
handles addresses of almost every country in greater detail
and
is an application independent language that can be used/extended
for
use in various applications such as CRM, Customer recognition,
customer
registration, customer information systems, data quality
management,
postal services, etc.
As part of V3.0 release, we
intend to use all the international address
examples provided by the UPU
web site
http://www.upu.org/post_code/en/postal_addressing_systems_member_countries.shtml
to
demostrate the power of xAL.
We will righly acknowledge UPU in all
our documents.
We therefore, seek your approval to use your address
examples.
If there are any issues with this, please let us
know.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Thank
you
Regards,
Ram Kumar
Founding Chair,
OASIS CIQ
TC
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq
General
Manager
Software R&D and Architecture
MSI BUSINESS
SYSTEMS
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stant
Jelto [mailto:jelto.stant@upu.int]
> Sent: Monday,
September 01, 2003 7:08 PM
> To: Ram Kumar; Stant Jelto
> Cc: CH
(Douane) -Vuilleumier, François; clivio@iso.org; Gray
> Steve;
Betremieux Christine; rberwanger@bTrade.com;
>
diskray@w150.aone.net.au; sue.probert@dial.pipex.com;
>
michael.doran@cern.ch; Jean-Luc@Champion.Name;
>
jean-luc.delcourt@cec.eu.int;
> Paul-Herve.Theunissen@cec.eu.int;
heinz.engi@ezv.admin.ch;
> josef.schoebi@ezv.admin.ch;
bernhard.spahr@ezv.admin.ch;
> samuel.kobel@ezv.admin.ch;
jon.bosak@sun.com; mcrawfor@lmi.org
> Subject: RE: Global "Name and
Address XML Standard" for OASIS
>
> Dear Mr. Kumar,
>
> Thank you for your message. I believe that you provide lots
> of useful and important information for our Addressing
>
project (the so-called POST*Code group). There seems to be a
> clear
need to coordinate this as best as we can.
>
> I will pass your
message on to the group, and hope to be able
> to provide you with a
reaction from their part soon.
>
> Thanks once more, and
hopefully I'll be back with more info
> in the near future.
>
> Jelto Stant
> Manager, Standards Development & Support
Universal Postal Union
>
> Tel: +41 31 3503 244
> Fax:
+41 31 3503 110
> Internet: www.upu.int
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ram Kumar [mailto:rkumar@msi.com.au]
> Sent: Monday,
September 01, 2003 2:11 AM
> To: jelto.stant@upu.int
> Cc:
fvuille@attglobal.net; clivio@iso.org;
> steve.gray@upu.int;
christine.betremieux@upu.int;
> rberwanger@bTrade.com;
diskray@w150.aone.net.au;
> sue.probert@dial.pipex.com;
michael.doran@cern.ch;
> Jean-Luc@Champion.Name;
jean-luc.delcourt@cec.eu.int;
> Paul-Herve.Theunissen@cec.eu.int;
heinz.engi@ezv.admin.ch;
> josef.schoebi@ezv.admin.ch;
bernhard.spahr@ezv.admin.ch;
> samuel.kobel@ezv.admin.ch;
jon.bosak@sun.com; mcrawfor@lmi.org
> Subject: Global "Name and
Address XML Standard" for OASIS
> Importance: High
>
>
Hi,
>
> My name is Ram Kumar and I am the founding Chairman of
> Customer Information Technical Committee of OASIS. We spent
> over 3 years developing a global name and address standard in
> XML and we have released the standard that is widely used
>
around the world for various name and address applications.
> The
standards
> are:
> extensible Name Language (xNL), and
>
extensible Address Language (xAL).
>
> Details of these
standards are in:
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq/ciq.html
>
> A customer could be a person or an organisation. An
>
organisation can be private, public, not-for-profit,
> association,
school, university, group, etc.
>
> These standards can be used
as a base representation to
> support any name and address
application such as postal
> services. It has been proven and widely
tested to support
> 240+ country names and addresses at an abstract
to a detailed
> level for various applications such as name and
address
> parsing to name and address validation and correction.
Sooner
> a Java library will be released that will enable users to
> take this Java APIs that process these standards.
>
>
Couple of years ago when CEN (WG331) was at a proposal stage
> to
develop an XML name and address standard under the
> chairmanship of
Mr.Holger Wandt, my committee took the
> proposal and showed how
these standards are a superset of
> what was being proposed. We
requested the group to take these
> base standards and extend it to
meet their specific
> requirement. Though there was agreement to our
> recommendation, they decided to develop their own.
>
>
We as a committee are very keen to work with any group and
> extend
our standards to accommodate any requirements.
>
> Our
committee is also in liaison with UBL who have taken our
> address
standard as part of their core library. Other OASIS
> committees such
as Tax, eGovernment and Election and Voting
> services are keen on
our standards. The UK Government and the
> New Zealand Government
have already adopted our standards.
> The NSW Government of Australia
is also close to taking our standards.
>
> All we are
requesting here is to give serious consideration
> to these standards
before developing another XML standard for
> name and address
representation. We are willing to cooperate
> with any standard
committee or bodies.
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
Ram
> Chair, OASIS CIQ TC
>
> Ram Kumar
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