Ram, this address makes
little sense.
Rue Lougoraïa 12, app.
10 thoroughfare type, name and number,
apartment Korolevo
locality 223016 NOVY
DVOR
postcode + post office name District of
Minsk district
name Region of
Minsk
region name BELARUS
I don't think anyone with
local knowledge of the area would write it this
way.
This is a valid sample
State Notariat No
6
Kolhoznaja
12
223016, Novy
Dvor
Minsk District (or Minsk
Region - same thing)
Belarus
Anywhere on the territory
of former USSR (except for the former mid-east republics) the address is always
like this:
District name
(for smaller localities that are not district centers)
Region/subdistrict name
(for very small rural localities like villages) [Town Name], [Post code - 6 digits, ### -
district, # - region, ## - post office] [Street Name] [Street
Number], [Apartment type]. [Apartment Number]
[Recepient
name]
It is all pretty
structured there and no 2 names can happen within the same town name, so
localities like suburbs are never used for postal purposes.
Cheers,
Max
Dear Joe,
UPU does not explain the
format of all international addresses.
Atleast 30-40% of
addresses structures are not defined. But,
it has defined postal
code structures for atleast 90% of the addresses.
Here is an example of an
undefined address structure from UPU.
No explanation is given
about the format of an address.
SOCIEDAD DE ESCRITORES
COLOMBIANOS Av. 15 no 80–13 oficina
702 ARACATACA–MAGDALENA COLOMBIA
Here is an example of a
defined address structure from UPU:
Rue Lougoraïa 12, app.
10 thoroughfare type, name and number,
apartment Korolevo
locality 223016 NOVY
DVOR
postcode + post office name District of
Minsk district
name Region of
Minsk
region name BELARUS
This helps me to understand the address
structure of Belarus.
Regards,
Ram
Ram Kumar General Manager Software R&D
and Architecture MSI BUSINESS SYSTEMS Suite 204A, 244 Beecroft
Road Epping, NSW 2121, Australia Direct: +61-2-9815 0226 Mobile:
+61-412 758 025 Fax: +61-2-98150200 URL: www.msi.com.au
I do not understand what you mean, Ram. Are you saying the UPU does
in some cases and does not in other cases provide information about the
address structure? Please explain and give an example of what you
consider as provided and as not provided.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 5:37
PM
Subject: [ciq] FW: Global and
application independent "Name and Address XML Specification" from
OASIS
CIQ TC,
FYI.
Over the weekend I have completed representing over
50% (countries beginning in
A to L) of international addresses (from
Universal Postal Union) in XML conforming to xAL V3.0.
For certain addresses, the UPU does not provide any
information about the address structure and
therefore, I am unable to codify those addresses in
XML.
Regards,
Ram
Ram Kumar General Manager Software
R&D and Architecture MSI BUSINESS SYSTEMS Suite 204A, 244 Beecroft
Road Epping, NSW 2121, Australia Direct: +61-2-9815 0226 Mobile:
+61-412 758 025 Fax: +61-2-98150200 URL: www.msi.com.au
to: e-business MoU/MG to: K. Best, J. Clark and R. Kumar,
OASIS to: S. Jelto, UPU to: J.-L. Champion, UN/CEFACT
TBG
ladies and gentlemen, ++ seems we have to revisit the NAD (Name And Address) set of issues and work
items (see below) ++ as an ISO/TC154
contribution, may I recall our Resolution 244 and
Action 19 (see doc. 154n472, attached) ++ up to the e-mail
below, nobody had been identified having resources to support our action
19 ++ that concerns specially TBG
groups: does Jean-Luc have a proposal and/or contact person
? ++ could we add NAD on the draft agenda of the next e-business MoU/MG ?
see http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/e-business/mou/index.html ++
last but not least, we shall keep in very close touch with Stant Jelto of UPU ! all the best,
François
=== ISO François Vuilleumier, ISO/TC154 chair + ISO7372MA
sec. TC open trade data interchange is
our aim 154 http://www.iso.org/tc154 ===
Subject: RE: Global and application
independent "Name and Address XML Specification" from OASIS Date: Fri,
8 Oct 2004 12:47:20 +1000 Thread-Topic: Global and application
independent "Name and Address XML Specification" from
OASIS Thread-Index: AcSs4SGFGnXIZXi5S2qKefa/G3S2nQ== Priority:
Urgent Importance: high From: "Ram Kumar"
<RKumar@msi.com.au> To: "Stant Jelto"
<jelto.stant@upu.int>
Hi Stant,
If you can recollect,
we communicated about a year ago. Here at OASIS Customer Information
Technical Committee, we are working on the release of the next version
(Version 3.0) of xAL (extensible Address Language). xAL V2.0 (released
in July 2002) handles addresses of almost every country in greater
detail and is an application independent language that can be
used/extended for use in various applications such as CRM, Customer
recognition, customer registration, customer information systems, data
quality management, postal services, etc.
As part of V3.0
release, we intend to use all the international address examples
provided by the UPU web site http://www.upu.org/post_code/en/postal_addressing_systems_member_countries.shtml to
demostrate the power of xAL.
We will righly acknowledge UPU in all
our documents.
We therefore, seek your approval to use your
address examples.
If there are any issues with this, please let us
know.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Thank
you
Regards,
Ram Kumar Founding Chair, OASIS CIQ
TC http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq
General
Manager Software R&D and Architecture MSI BUSINESS
SYSTEMS Suite 204A, 244 Beecroft Road Epping, NSW 2121,
Australia Direct: +61-2-9815 0226 Mobile: +61-412 758 025 Fax:
+61-2-98150200 URL: www.msi.com.au
> -----Original Message----- > From: Stant
Jelto [mailto:jelto.stant@upu.int] > Sent: Monday,
September 01, 2003 7:08 PM > To: Ram Kumar; Stant Jelto > Cc:
CH (Douane) -Vuilleumier, François; clivio@iso.org; Gray > Steve;
Betremieux Christine; rberwanger@bTrade.com; >
diskray@w150.aone.net.au; sue.probert@dial.pipex.com; >
michael.doran@cern.ch; Jean-Luc@Champion.Name; >
jean-luc.delcourt@cec.eu.int; > Paul-Herve.Theunissen@cec.eu.int;
heinz.engi@ezv.admin.ch; > josef.schoebi@ezv.admin.ch;
bernhard.spahr@ezv.admin.ch; > samuel.kobel@ezv.admin.ch;
jon.bosak@sun.com; mcrawfor@lmi.org > Subject: RE: Global "Name and
Address XML Standard" for OASIS > > Dear Mr. Kumar, >
> Thank you for your message. I believe that you provide lots
> of useful and important information for our Addressing >
project (the so-called POST*Code group). There seems to be a >
clear need to coordinate this as best as we can. > > I will
pass your message on to the group, and hope to be able > to provide
you with a reaction from their part soon. > > Thanks once
more, and hopefully I'll be back with more info > in the near
future. > > Jelto Stant > Manager, Standards
Development & Support Universal Postal Union > > Tel:
+41 31 3503 244 > Fax: +41 31 3503 110 > Internet: www.upu.int > > > -----Original
Message----- > From: Ram Kumar [mailto:rkumar@msi.com.au] > Sent: Monday,
September 01, 2003 2:11 AM > To: jelto.stant@upu.int > Cc:
fvuille@attglobal.net; clivio@iso.org; > steve.gray@upu.int;
christine.betremieux@upu.int; > rberwanger@bTrade.com;
diskray@w150.aone.net.au; > sue.probert@dial.pipex.com;
michael.doran@cern.ch; > Jean-Luc@Champion.Name;
jean-luc.delcourt@cec.eu.int; > Paul-Herve.Theunissen@cec.eu.int;
heinz.engi@ezv.admin.ch; > josef.schoebi@ezv.admin.ch;
bernhard.spahr@ezv.admin.ch; > samuel.kobel@ezv.admin.ch;
jon.bosak@sun.com; mcrawfor@lmi.org > Subject: Global "Name and
Address XML Standard" for OASIS > Importance: High > >
Hi, > > My name is Ram Kumar and I am the founding Chairman
of > Customer Information Technical Committee of OASIS. We spent
> over 3 years developing a global name and address standard in
> XML and we have released the standard that is widely used
> around the world for various name and address applications.
> The standards > are: > extensible Name Language
(xNL), and > extensible Address Language (xAL). > >
Details of these standards are in: > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq/ciq.html >
> A customer could be a person or an organisation. An >
organisation can be private, public, not-for-profit, > association,
school, university, group, etc. > > These standards can be
used as a base representation to > support any name and address
application such as postal > services. It has been proven and
widely tested to support > 240+ country names and addresses at an
abstract to a detailed > level for various applications such as
name and address > parsing to name and address validation and
correction. Sooner > a Java library will be released that will
enable users to > take this Java APIs that process these
standards. > > Couple of years ago when CEN (WG331) was at a
proposal stage > to develop an XML name and address standard under
the > chairmanship of Mr.Holger Wandt, my committee took the
> proposal and showed how these standards are a superset of
> what was being proposed. We requested the group to take these
> base standards and extend it to meet their specific >
requirement. Though there was agreement to our > recommendation,
they decided to develop their own. > > We as a committee are
very keen to work with any group and > extend our standards to
accommodate any requirements. > > Our committee is also in
liaison with UBL who have taken our > address standard as part of
their core library. Other OASIS > committees such as Tax,
eGovernment and Election and Voting > services are keen on our
standards. The UK Government and the > New Zealand Government have
already adopted our standards. > The NSW Government of Australia is
also close to taking our standards. > > All we are requesting
here is to give serious consideration > to these standards before
developing another XML standard for > name and address
representation. We are willing to cooperate > with any standard
committee or bodies. > > Kind regards, > >
Ram > Chair, OASIS CIQ TC > > Ram Kumar > General
Manager - Development & Architecture MSI Suite A204, > 244
Beecroft Road Epping, NSW 2121, AUSTRALIA Switch : +61 2 > 9815
0200 Direct : +61 2 9815 0226 > Fax : +61 2 9815
0299 > Mobile : +61 (0)412 758 025 > Web
: http://www.msi.com.au > > "Information
is The Business" >
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