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Subject: Re: [cmis] "CMIS logo"; Agenda for Monday
hi john, as far as i understand the oasis officials have already gotten in contact with oliver to clear licensing issues, and as far as i understand fine with the terms from an oasis perspective. since i am not a lawyer, i just meant "apache style" in the sense "free for commercial and non-commercial use". i think the point that i tried to get across was: there is no licensing issue, oliver is fine with whatever oasis suggests. sorry for being overly complicated ;) regards, david On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:30 AM, John Newton <john.newton@alfresco.com> wrote: > Not sure that "Apache-style" is the right approach either. How is any other intellectual property handled within OASIS? Isn't there some statement about it in all the agreements we signed with OASIS? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Nuescheler" <david@day.com> > To: "John Newton" <john.newton@alfresco.com> > Cc: "Choy David" <Choy_David@emc.com>, cmis@lists.oasis-open.org > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:53:40 PM GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal > Subject: Re: [cmis] "CMIS logo"; Agenda for Monday > > hi john, > > i completely agree that it does not make sense to endorse something > that has "strings attached". > > i don't think there would be any restrictions on usage other than imposed > by oasis or this tc. from my conversations with oliver i don't think that > wants to retain any rights whatsoever, probably not even ip. > for the arguments sake you can consider it "apache-style" licensed. > > i think the usage limitations would come from oasis or this tc, where if > i understand david choy's note oasis has a practice around licensing of > an "official" logo. keep in mind that it was not oliver's original intent to > create an official logo, but just something that we could use in our > presentations and signage that has a "visual anchor" attached to it and > in absence of a logo at this stage (being a professional designer) he just > designed one... > > (of course i personally really like the logo ;) > > regards, > david > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM, John Newton <john.newton@alfresco.com> wrote: >> There is really no point in adopting a logo that the organization has no control over its usage. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Choy David" <Choy_David@emc.com> >> To: cmis@lists.oasis-open.org >> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:13:50 AM GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal >> Subject: [cmis] "CMIS logo"; Agenda for Monday >> >> To all: >> >> Some of you may have seen a sign that appeared to be a "CMIS logo". It >> showed up on wikipedia >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_Management_Interoperability_Servic >> es) and elsewhere. The author of this sign is a graphic designer by the >> name of Oliver Walthard. You can find the licensing terms for this sign >> at >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cmis_logo.png. A few people who saw >> the sign seemed to like it. >> >> Recently, OASIS communicated with Oliver. To my knowledge, Oliver has >> indicated willingness to let OASIS use the sign as a logo for CMIS >> loyalty-free for non-profit activities. Assuming a formal licensing >> agreement can be drawn up, OASIS is ok if the TC decides to adopt the >> logo. It is now a TC's choice. We will discuss this on Monday. Our >> options are, obviously, (a) adopt it, (b) reject it, or (c) ignore it. >> In my opinion, (c) is the worst choice for the TC. We should take a >> position quickly. If we decide to adopt it, OASIS will likely set up >> usage requirements to prevent logo misuse. We can also discuss licensing >> terms that we desire, but I would let OASIS handle all the IP issues and >> formal agreement with Oliver should we adopt the logo. >> >> Following discussion, we will likely set up a ballot. Since a logo >> formally represents the TC in the public, a "full-majority" vote is >> needed to approve adoption. >> >> Agenda for May 18th: >> * Result of "May 25th TC Meeting" ballot >> * "CMIS logo" discussion >> * Result of "Access control" ballot; WG update >> * Link relation WG - brief status >> * Generic AtomPub client, AtomPub extension, xsd >> * Document preview (thumbnail) proposal (CMIS-183) >> * Fulltext search proposal (CMIS-144) >> * JIRA issues - From #161 >> >> david >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >> generates this mail. 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