RE: [codelist] RE: Can HTML version of genericode documents be (OpenOffice) HTML rather than XHTML?

["Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>]

Hi Ken,

  Sorry for the delay. Yes, any specification that has not reached CS status by
1 June 2007 must contain the new Conformance Clause section. I don't see any
problem with working on this during the public review and then having a short
15-day review with the conformance section. Also, just an FYI, the end of August
is typically looked at as a bad time for an OS Standard ballot because much of
Europe is on holiday (if that's any consolation).

  There's one other hitch in Ken's schedule. First, if any comments are received
a seven-day waiting period is imposed before a CS ballot can begin; secondly all
CS ballots/OS ballots must be conducted via electronic ballot (7 days). If I can
get the announcement out before end of day today the TC could theoretically
still meet the deadline; if comments are received during the 2nd review that
wouldn't work however.

  Also, if comments are received during the review period, most technical
committees handle these as they are received rather than waiting until the end -
it could be this is done via email and there's no need for a meeting, but it
might also make sense to schedule an interim meeting and then cancel if no
comments have been received. Just a thought.

>    Public review start:  17 May 2007
>    Public review end:    16 July 2007 (60 days)
>    Committee meeting:    17 July 2007
>    Public review start:  20 July 2007
>    Public review end:    4 August 2007 (15 days)
>    Committee meeting:    7 August 2007
     CS ballot start:      7 August 2007
     CS ballot close:      14 August 2007
>    OASIS voting start:   1 September 2007

I'm now going to work on getting your PR announced.

Mary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: G. Ken Holman [mailto:gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:05 AM
> To: 'Code List Representation TC'
> Subject: Re: [codelist] RE: Can HTML version of genericode 
> documents be (OpenOffice) HTML rather than XHTML?
> 
> Thanks for the heads-up, Mary, about the problems.
> 
> Since we didn't make last week's deadline, this means that we 
> will have to push back on the July 10 meeting.  What this 
> then means is that according to the Process section 3.4 we 
> will not make the July
> 15 deadline for getting genericode out for OASIS Standard 
> consideration and voting by August 1.  The standardization is 
> pushed back a month, or longer if we have continuing problems 
> creating the HTML.
> 
> Mary, the Process sections 1(dd) and 2.18 regarding 
> conformance clauses are for Committee Specifications 
> finalized after 1 June 2007 ... I either misread or 
> misunderstood this to exclude anything in progress by that 
> date so I thought our specification was exempt.  This came to 
> my attention last week at the UBL face-to-face.  The 
> Committee Draft we finalized does not have a conformance 
> clause and this has not been flagged as a problem.  Can you 
> confirm if the text you have is satisfactory or not?
> 
> I would like to still go ahead with the public review and if 
> we discover the lack of the conformance section will prevent 
> this document going from Draft to Specification then that can 
> be treated as a comment.  If the addition of a Conformance 
> Clause is considered substantive (not sure on my part, since 
> the actual document model specification doesn't change), then 
> we can add it and have a second public review for 15 days and 
> still make the deadline for September voting, assuming we get 
> over the HTML problems by Monday:
> 
>    Public review start:  21 May 2007
>    Public review end:    20 July 2007 (60 days)
>    Committee meeting:    24 July 2007
>    Public review start:  27 July 2007
>    Public review end:    11 August 2007 (15 days)
>    Committee meeting:    14 August 2007
>    OASIS voting start:   1 September 2007
> 
> So, with effort, we can get to our objective only one month 
> later than we discussed at our meeting last week.
> 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ken
> 
> At 2007-05-17 09:29 -0400, Mary McRae wrote:
> 
> >They're both pretty awful - I've been trying to get a decent HTML 
> >conversion of your files out of ODF using a number of approaches:
> >a) save as HTML
> >b) save as XHTML
> >c) save as doc, open in Word, save as HTML ...
> >d) save as office 2003 xml, open in Word, save as HTML ...
> >e) open ODT in Word using plug-in, save as HTML ...
> >
> >none of which have been successful. I've also been in contact with 
> >someone at the OpenDocument Fellowship to see if their odf2xhtml 
> >converter is same/better/worse and will be experimenting.
> >
> >Maybe I'll try saving the PDF as HTML next ...
> >
> >(once I get to HTML I use the Tidy Online converter to clean-up/turn 
> >into XHTML)
> >
> >Mary
> 
> 
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