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Subject: Minutes of 20071009 Code List Representation TC teleconference


Minutes of 20071009 Code List Representation TC teleconference

Hello all,

Please find the minutes of today's meeting posted at:

   http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=25622

The full text (without indentation) is posted 
below for convenience, but the record above is 
official and will point to any revisions that may be posted in the future.

Thanks!

. . . . . . . . . . . Ken

Minutes for 2007-10-09 Code List Representation TC Meeting
Copyright  2007 OASIS

$Date: 2007/10/09 17:19:32 $(UTC)


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Table of Contents

1. Roll call
2. Previous meeting 2007-09-18
3. Standing items
4. Action items from previous meetings
5. Discussion of next steps and timetable
5.1. Review of delivery dates in charter:
6. Other (short) discussions and business related to the committee
7. Next teleconference
8. Any other business
9. Summary of action items pending after this meeting
10. End of meeting
Convened at 14:00(UTC) - 2007-10-09

Public Record: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/event.php?event_id=15971

Member Record: 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/event.php?event_id=15971

Agenda: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=25572

Many thanks to the Financial Information Services 
Division (FISD) http://www.fisd.net of SIIA for sponsoring our teleconference.

1. Roll call
Present:

Jon Bosak
Anthony Coates
Jim Harris
G. Ken Holman

Regrets received in advance:

Paul Spencer

Public Record: 
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=codelist

Member Record (sort by "Role" column to see 
voting members at end of list): 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/members/roster.php

Attendance Requirements: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php

2. Previous meeting 2007-09-18
Public Record: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/event.php?event_id=15970

Member Record: 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/event.php?event_id=15970

Minutes: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=25317

There were no comments on the minutes of the previous meeting.

3. Standing items
All members to consider additions to the implementations list

http://wiki.oasis-open.org/codelist/Known_implementations_of_genericode

All members to post ideas for describing our 
committee's work to be used for promotion and evangelism

All members need to evangelize the committee and recruit new members

4. Action items from previous meetings
Ken to solicit at least three statements of use 
to be presented before November 15, 2007

pending; see notes below regarding how this may not be a critical timing issue

Ken to move the comments to the appropriate 
folder, and then link to the comments from the 
home page and make the announcement to the mail list

pending; awaiting feedback from OASIS

All to comment on the second Committee Draft when 
posted, in preparation for approving it for the second public review

Ken to re-post his comments from this morning to 
the comment list after the comment period opens

Tony to polish draft second Committee Draft of the genericode specification

use "cd2-genericode-1.0" in URI and "Second Committee Draft" in title

Tony to post changes from first Committee Draft 
as a summary document for use in directing the 
comments of the second public review

Ken to work on another renamed draft of the 
Schematron-based Value Validation Using Genericode

pending

it was noted that this document really is the 
specification of a file format, that being the 
document context/value association between XPath 
document contexts and genericode files, thus 
deemphasizing "validation" as an active task (as 
it has been) and emphasizing "specification of 
valid values" as an artefact which would happen 
to be useful for the act of validation, or data 
entry, or other processes (as it should be)

5. Discussion of next steps and timetable
5.1. Review of delivery dates in charter:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/200608/msg00007.html

what is our status?

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#3.2

first public review complete July 16, 2007

need to address comments, revise materials, 
approve Committee Draft and issue second public review (at least 15 days long)

wait 7 days (if no comments on second draft) 
before notifying OASIS that the TC is ready to 
vote on the Committee Specification

when Committee Specification reached, and with 
three Statements of Use in hand, submitted to 
OASIS for approval as an OASIS Standard

submissions for OASIS standardization are due by the 15th of each month

Agreed (unanimous) that the draft posted by Tony be the Second Committee Draft

after editorial changes are applied and the document is posted again

Agreed (unanimous) to forward the Second 
Committee Draft for the 15-day public review

Ken to send notification to OASIS as soon as 
possible after the document is posted

On meeting of October 30 we have required actions:

review comments from 15-day period

vote to go to 7-day Committee Specification 
status if there are no unmanageable objections brought up during the review

vote for sending completed specification to OASIS 
standardization when Committee Specification 
status is achieved provided there are no 
objections brought up during the vote for Committee Specification status

this last step may be delayed if we cannot find 
organizational members willing to attest to the 
use of genericode as published and in conformance 
with the conditions of the conformance clause

this need not really be a concern as "OASIS 
Standard" status can be achieved at any time 
after the hard work of getting the specification 
to "Committee Specification" is complete, thus 
giving companies time to work with the Committee 
Specification before endorsing it for OASIS Standard status

6.  Other (short) discussions and business related to the committee
Related news from UN/CEFACT meeting in Stockholm and UBL conference in Madrid

Tony and Ken in Stockholm

Tony talked with ATG 2 (XML representation) and ICG (publishing)

ATG to date has embedded code lists in enumerations

Tony is the author of the ATG issue paper

question about boundary of which lists are embedded and which are external

ICG needs a publication format for their code lists and genericode fits well

committed to move their lists into genericode 
format and consider accepting genericode at or in 
advance of the next forum (six months)

Ken presented the validation methodology to ATG2 
(well received by some members) but at the 
closing plenary it was indicated this was 
explicitly not yet under consideration

Ken in Madrid

a free tool supporting the creation and 
manipulation of genericode 0.4 files was 
demonstrated at the UBL International 2007 conference in Madrid

http://www.unimaze.com/ebmapper.aspx

discussion at a public forum for www.ePractice.eu 
regarding genericode use in business documents 
(no explicit action but Ken will be making the group more aware)

Identified code list requirements from the 
Electronic Court Filing Technical Committee

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/200710/msg00004.html

Jim is looking for ideas to take back to the 
ECFTC to address their issues or address their unease about genericode

7.  Next teleconference
Determine date and time of next meetings.

Tuesday 2007-10-30 14:00(UTC)

Public Record: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/event.php?event_id=16763

Member Record: 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/event.php?event_id=16763

Tuesday 2007-11-20 15:00(UTC)

Public Record: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/event.php?event_id=16819

Member Record: 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/event.php?event_id=16819

It was noted that the October 30, 2007 meeting 
happens during the week when the UK is no longer 
on summer time, but North America is. Callers in 
from the UK should note that the call on the 30th 
is at a different time as usual, but it is the 
same time as usual for those from North America. 
The November call is at the same local time as 
usual, which because of no daylight savings time, is one hour later UTC.

8.  Any other business
(none at this time)

9.  Summary of action items pending after this meeting
Ken to solicit at least three statements of use 
to be presented before November 15, 2007

Ken to move the comments to the appropriate 
folder, and then link to the comments from the 
home page and make the announcement to the mail list

Tony to polish draft second Committee Draft of the genericode specification

Tony to post changes from first Committee Draft 
as a summary document for use in directing the 
comments of the second public review

Ken to work on another renamed draft of the 
Schematron-based Value Validation Using Genericode

10.  End of meeting
Meeting ended at 14:38UTC

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