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Subject: Minutes for Code List Representation TC call 18 June 2021 14:00 UTC
- From: Andrea Caccia <andrea.caccia.oasis@gmail.com>
- To: codelist@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 16:59:29 +0200
Minutes for
Code List Representation TC call
18 June 2021 - 9:00 MSP/10:00
Ottawa/14:00 UTC/16:00 Central Europe
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2021-06-18T14:00:00
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Pres. |
Name |
Organization |
Status |
(A) |
Kenneth
Bengtsson |
Individual |
Member |
(P) |
Erlend
Klakegg Bergheim |
The Norwegian
Agency for Public and Financial Management (DFO) |
Voting Member |
(L) |
James Cabral |
Individual |
Member |
(P) |
Andrea Caccia
(chair) |
Individual |
Voting Member |
(A) |
Ger Clancy |
IBM |
Persistent
non-voting Member |
(P) |
Jim Harris |
National
Center for State Courts |
Voting Member |
(P) |
Ken Holman |
Crane
Softwrights Ltd. |
Voting Member |
(P) |
Natalie Muric |
Publications
Office of the European Union |
Voting Member |
(A) |
Levine Naidoo |
IBM |
Persistent
non-voting Member |
Presence legend
(X):
(P)=Present
(A)=Absent
(R)=Regrets
(L)=Leave of absence
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this meeting
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Review
of last call minutes
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202106/msg00002.html
Approved
Confirmation of
Meeting Schedule
----------------------------------------------
- 2021-07-02:
09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
- 2021-07-16:
09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
- 2021-07-30:
09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
TC Deliverables
planning
---------------------------------
Agreed that we
first should focus on the first two deliverables:
- a semantic
model / meta-model of genericode
- an XML
serialization of the genericode semantic model, with the intent of
backward compatibility (or even no changes) to the existing
genericode
We need to look
into how to express the semantic model of the existing markup
vocabulary. What technologies should we look at and use?
Further discussion is needed.
An example of JSON serialization is being produced by Ken and
Erlend, to be considered for planning.
=====
James
volunteered for start looking into the "semantic
model / meta-model of genericode" topic and assessing if the fit
of the metamodel to current Genericode specification.
The NIEM metamodel should be analysed, Git repository:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00004.html
Proposed
extensions to the NIEM metamodel to support genericode features such
as multiple columns and keys with mocked up example based on
nc:LanguageCode that introduces 3 new elements to the NIEM
metamodel, for discussion:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202106/msg00005.html
To be further discussed.
=====
Ken volonteered to
continue dealing with Genericode document editing.
Ken posted genericode-v1.0-csd04wd03 for review:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202106/msg00004.html
See also for
further information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00011.html
=====
We need to look into aligning the prose to ISO/IEC 15944-10
IT-enabled coded domains as semantic components in business
transactions.
Andrea and Ken volunteered for start taking care of this and make
proposals to the group.
Further discussion
on first attempt to put Genericode in scope of ISO/IEC 15944 and
Open-edi standards:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202104/msg00001.html
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00003.html
=====
A question was raised to check about interest on having JSON
serialization of genericode.
Possible users to reach:
- ISO RAs
- source authorities listed in the ICD list based on ISO/IEC 6523
- EU CEF
Use of Code lists by OpenPEPPOL was spotted by Ken:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00006.html
They publish code lists both in XML and JSON and also using
genericode.
Use of genericode by the European Commission was identified with
electronic invoicing:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00007.html
The EU Publication Office is using genericode:
https://op.europa.eu/en/web/eu-vocabularies/e-procurement/tables
The OASIS LegalXML Electronic Court Filing specifications v4 and v5
use genericode. ECF v4 is widely adopted among US state courts.
http://docs.oasis-open.org/legalxml-courtfiling/ecf/v5.0/cs01/schema/
It important to determine when JSON is used if it is for internal
use or for publication as this can influence the development.
It was observed that any JSON serialization would not be able to
address XML features such as annotations and custom complex values
in columns.
Ken started a
poll to gather input from potential stakeholders:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00012.html
Discussion about first reactions.
Summary tallies in the two simultaneous polls from Ken's (see
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202106/msg00003.html):
Developers:
I'll take XML and create JSON: 11
I need JSON and can't use XML: 0
Publishers:
My audience accepts my XML: 6 = 30%
My audience wants JSON from me: 14 = 70%
Natalie contacted directly potential stakeholders.
The revision activities for ISO/IEC 6523 also started (ISO/IEC AWI
6523-1 and ISO/IEC AWI 6523-2) with potential use of genericode can
be foreseen for the publication of the ICD list by the ISO/IEC 6523
RA.
Other Business
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None.
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