Minutes for Code List Representation TC call 16 July 2021 14:00 UTC

[Andrea Caccia <andrea.caccia@studiocaccia.com>]

    Minutes for
        Code List Representation TC call
    16 July 2021 - 9:00 MSP/10:00
        Ottawa/14:00 UTC/16:00 Central Europe
      http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2021-07-16T14:00:00
    
    
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Pres.	Name	Organization	Status
(A)	Kenneth Bengtsson	Individual	Member
(P)	Erlend Klakegg Bergheim	The Norwegian Agency for Public and Financial Management (DFO)	Voting Member
(L)	James Cabral	Individual	Leave of absence
(P)	Andrea Caccia (chair)	Individual	Voting Member
(A)	Ger Clancy	IBM	Persistent non-voting Member
(R)	Jim Harris	National Center for State Courts	Voting Member
(P)	Ken Holman	Crane Softwrights Ltd.	Voting Member
(A)	Natalie Muric	Publications Office of the European Union	Voting Member
(A)	Levine Naidoo	IBM	Persistent non-voting Member

    Presence
                      legend (X):
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                      (A)=Absent
                      (R)=Regrets
                      (L)=Leave of absence
                    
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                          Review of last call minutes
              https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202106/msg00007.html
              Minutes
                            are approved.
                            
                          Confirmation
                      of Meeting Schedule
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• 2021-07-30: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
• 2021-09-10: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
• 2021-09-24: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

It was agreed to have a vacation period during August and cancel the 2 foreseen meetings.

      TC Deliverables
        planning
    ---------------------------------
    Agreed that we
      first should focus on the first two deliverables:
     - a semantic
      model / meta-model of genericode
     - an XML
      serialization of the genericode semantic model, with the intent of
      backward compatibility (or even no changes) to the existing
      genericode
     We need to look
      into how to express the semantic model of the existing markup
      vocabulary. What technologies should we look at and use?
      Further discussion is needed. 
    
    Semantic model
        / meta-model
    -----------------------------------------
    James
      volunteered for start looking into the  "semantic
        model / meta-model of genericode" topic and assessing if the fit
        of the metamodel to current Genericode specification.
      The NIEM metamodel should be analysed, Git repository: 
      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00004.html
    Proposed
    extensions to the NIEM metamodel to support genericode features such
    as multiple columns and keys with mocked up example based on
    nc:LanguageCode that introduces 3 new elements to the NIEM
    metamodel, for discussion: 
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202106/msg00005.html
    
    Comments from Ken:
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202107/msg00003.html
    
    Ken observed the following about the metamodel in light of the work
    being done in JSON:
    - it may be premature to continue work on the metamodel until we
    determine its utility in light of our earlier decision on JSON
    - earlier it was decided that the JSON syntax is only a
    demonstration subset of genericode so that users can tailor the JSON
    to their own needs
    - if we aren't going to create the entire genericode in JSON, what
    is the use of a metamodel?
    - already proposals are made to have different names in the JSON
    than in the XSD, so what would we have to do in the metamodel to
    identify semantics that are labeled differently in the two syntaxes
    - Ken proposed we consider suspending the metamodel and put our
    efforts into a parallel subset JSON and other responsibilities on
    the project
    
    TC members are invited to make their observetions to the mailing
    list.
    
    
    Genericode
        document editing
    ----------------------------------------
    Ken volonteered to
        continue dealing with Genericode document editing.
        Ken posted genericode-v1.0-csd04wd03 for review:
        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202106/msg00004.html
        
        =====
        
      We need to look into aligning the prose to ISO/IEC 15944-10
      IT-enabled coded domains as semantic components in business
      transactions.
      Andrea and Ken volunteered for start taking care of this and make
      proposals to the group.
      Further discussion
      on first attempt to put Genericode in scope of ISO/IEC 15944 and
      Open-edi standards:
      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202104/msg00001.html
      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00003.html
      
      See also for further information: 
      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00011.html
    
    JSON scheme
      ------------------
        Preliminary schema from Erlend:
        https://github.com/klakegg/genericode-schema
        
        Further considerations from Ken for discussion:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202107/msg00002.html
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202107/msg00004.html
        
        The group discussed the schema and examples in github and
        recognized that as a good basis to proceed.
        In the next weeks Ken and Erlend will further progress the work.
        
      Use or
            potential use of Genericode
        ----------------------------------------------
      
      A question was raised to check about interest on having JSON
      serialization of genericode.
      Possible users to reach:
      - ISO RAs
      - source authorities listed in the ICD list based on ISO/IEC 6523
      - EU CEF
    
    Use of Code lists by OpenPEPPOL was spotted by Ken:
    https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00006.html
    They publish code lists both in XML and JSON and also using
    genericode.
    
    Use of genericode by the European Commission was identified with
    electronic invoicing:
    https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00007.html
    
    The EU Publication Office is using genericode:
    https://op.europa.eu/en/web/eu-vocabularies/e-procurement/tables
    
    The OASIS LegalXML Electronic Court Filing specifications v4 and v5
    use genericode. 
    ECF v4 is widely adopted among US state courts.
    http://docs.oasis-open.org/legalxml-courtfiling/ecf/v5.0/cs01/schema/
    
    It important to determine when JSON is used if it is for internal
    use or for publication as this can influence the development.
    It was observed that any JSON serialization would not be able to
    address XML features such as annotations and custom complex values
    in columns.
    
    Ken started a
      poll to gather input from potential stakeholders:
     https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00012.html
    
    Discussion about first reactions.
    Summary tallies in the two simultaneous polls from Ken's (see https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202106/msg00003.html):
    
    Developers:
> I'll take XML and create JSON: 11
>       I need JSON and can't use XML: 0
>     
    
    Publishers:
> My audience accepts my XML: 6 = 30%
>       My audience wants JSON from me: 14 = 70%
>     
    
    Natalie contacted directly potential stakeholders.
    
    The revision activities for ISO/IEC 6523 also started (ISO/IEC AWI
    6523-1 and ISO/IEC AWI 6523-2) with potential use of genericode can
    be foreseen for the publication of the ICD list by the ISO/IEC 6523
    RA.
    
    Other Business
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    None.

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