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<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>My view
of the purpose of the Court Document standard is that it is to tag the =
data
used by the clerk and/or court, the data that is of use to practitioners =
for
their own purposes, as well as for other purposes such as electronic =
service,
etc.&nbsp; I do not feel that those members of the TC interested in =
Court
Document should need to participate in a separate TC to ensure that the =
Court
Document standard meets our needs; the additional time to attend =
meetings of
multiple TCs is something that would be very difficult for many of us to
do.&nbsp; At this point, I strongly oppose separating Court Document out =
of the
Court Filing TC.&nbsp; My primary concern is that there would be even =
less identification
with the Court Filing TC as a whole than there has been in the =
past.&nbsp;
Unless someone makes a strong case for doing so, I would be voting that =
I
cannot live with a proposal to separate Court Document from Court =
Filing.</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks, </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Catherine
Krause </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>E-Filing Project Manager =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>King County Department =
of Judicial
Administration </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>(206)296-7860 =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>catherine.krause@metrokc.gov =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; =
</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original
Message----- </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>From: =
Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov [<a
href=3D"mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov">mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov</a>] =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Monday, May 05, =
2003 8:53 AM </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>To:
'courtfiling-doc@lists.oasis-open.org'; 'Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV' =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: RE: =
[courtfiling-doc]
Breaking Court Document out of Court Filing </span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>thanks
Roger for quick response, </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>i would
suggest that the Court Filing stakeholders who have an interest in XML =
court
document standard consider joining a separate Court Document TC .... =
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>i have
not seen demonstrated at the Court Filing meetings the &quot;close
identification&quot; between the two at the meetings i have =
attended.....&nbsp;
the last set of meeting notes to my mind indicate the opposite... that =
the
court filing envelope /transmission capability takes any BLOB... not
exclusively a document that authored/created based on XML
technologies/standards.</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>i would
welcome a list of reasons from you and/or other ECF stakeholders as to =
why the
document/filing components should remain in tandum.... =
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>diane </span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original
Message----- </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>From: =
Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV [<a
href=3D"mailto:Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV">mailto:Roger.Winters@METROKC.GO=
V</a>] </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Monday, May 05, =
2003 11:40 AM
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>To:
courtfiling-doc@lists.oasis-open.org </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: RE: =
[courtfiling-doc]
Breaking Court Document out of Court Filing </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Importance: Low =
</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Diane, </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I will,
of course, represent the ECF TC to the Steering Committee by conveying =
its
requests, recommendations, etc., there. There are, by the way, specific =
OASIS
procedures relating to the formation of Technical Committees, etc. =
Whatever
decisions are reached would be implemented within those procedures. =
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Now,
writing as an individual member of the ECF TC, I think this is the first =
time
I've heard a proposal to move the Court Document committee toward being =
its own
TC. I would think that Court Document needs to become more closely =
identified
with Court Filing, where many of its stakeholders are =
involved.</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Roger
Winters </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Electronic Court Records =
Manager </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>King County =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Department of Judicial
Administration </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>516 Third Avenue, E-609 =
MS:
KCC-JA-0609 </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Seattle, Washington =
98104 </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>V: (206) 296-7838 F: =
(206) 296-0906
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>roger.winters@metrokc.gov </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; =
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original
Message----- </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>From: =
Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov [<a
href=3D"mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov">mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov</a>] =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Monday, May 05, =
2003 8:08 AM </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>To:
courtfiling-doc@lists.oasis-open.org </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: =
[courtfiling-doc] Breaking
Court Document out of Court Filing </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Roger, </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;i am addressing =
this message
through the court document filing SC...instead of directly to you.... so =
others
can provide their thoughts.</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I would
like to request that you along with elected members to the LegalXML =
member
Section board... consider a realignment of Court Document ... instead of =
being
designated as a subcommittee under Court Filing.&nbsp; I propose =
that</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>the
community consider it a separate TC....&nbsp;&nbsp; the charter for the =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>subcommittee can be =
rewritten to
justify the need to place a definite boundary between court filing and =
court
document. </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>i look
forward to learning your detailed views on this proposal as well as =
learning
the views of other court document SC members.</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>thanks
for considering this idea.... diane </span></font></p>

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