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Subject: Re: Re: [cti-stix] Observation Rename
+1 for Observed Data I may explain this data field to general (non technical) user easily. Masato On 2016/07/07 1:36, cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org wrote: > Lets plan to discuss this and decide on the call today... I think the two options right now from the email discussion are: > > Observed Data > CybOX Data > > > Personally, I prefer Observed Data as it makes it technology agnostic. We will always use CybOX for Cyber. However, long term we may choose to fold in a parallel technology to work along side CybOX. Having the term be agnostic, makes that a lot easier. > > Can we get an informal vote via email? > > > Thanks, > > Bret > > > > Bret Jordan CISSP > Director of Security Architecture and Standards | Office of the CTO > Blue Coat Systems > PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447 F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050 > "Without cryptography vihv vivc ce xhrnrw, however, the only thing that can not be unscrambled is an egg." > > > On Jul 6, 2016, at 09:35, Allan Thomson <HYPERLINK "mailto:athomson@lookingglasscyber.com"athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> wrote: > > I would prefer “CyBox Data”. > > The word “Fact” makes me nervous as it is a level of assessment that does not exist in the data that is provided. > > Just because you captured data does not make that data accurate. One would have to determine how the data was captured, and measured to be translated into a Cybox/STIX object before you could say its ‘truth’. > > allan > > On 7/6/16, 7:38 AM, "HYPERLINK "mailto:cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org"cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org on behalf of Piazza, Rich" <HYPERLINK "mailto:cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org"cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org on behalf of HYPERLINK "mailto:rpiazza@mitre.org"rpiazza@mitre.org> wrote: > > Sounds like "Facts about CybOX" > > -1 > > -----Original Message----- > From: HYPERLINK "mailto:cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org"cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Kirillov, Ivan A. > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 10:30 AM > To: Trey Darley <HYPERLINK "mailto:trey@kingfisherops.com"trey@kingfisherops.com>; Jordan, Bret <HYPERLINK "mailto:bret.jordan@bluecoat.com"bret.jordan@bluecoat.com> > Cc: HYPERLINK "mailto:cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org"cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [cti-stix] Observation Rename > > +1 for CybOX Facts – I think it’s very clear and to the point. Also, it permits for the expression of cyber data that may be factual but not observed, such as future DGA-generated domains. > > Regards, > Ivan > > On 7/6/16, 8:05 AM, "Trey Darley" <HYPERLINK "mailto:cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org"cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org on behalf of HYPERLINK "mailto:trey@kingfisherops.com"trey@kingfisherops.com> wrote: > > > > On 05.07.2016 17:41:12, Jordan, Bret wrote: > > > > One option we talked about was just renaming one or both of the > objects.... What if we renamed "Observation" to "Observation Data" > or something similar? Would it then be more clear that this object > just contains data or facts? > > Other options, since this object can only support CybOX is we call > it "CybOX Data". The term "Cyber Data" was shot down on the call. > > > > > Occam's Razor: let's change Observation to CybOX Facts. Simple, > obvious, straight to the point. > > -- > Cheers, > Trey > ++--------------------------------------------------------------------------++ > Kingfisher Operations, sprl > gpg fingerprint: 85F3 5F54 4A2A B4CD 33C4 5B9B B30D DD6E 62C8 6C1D > ++--------------------------------------------------------------------------++ > -- > "It is always possible to add another level of indirection." --RFC 1925 > > > > >
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