Peter,
Is there such PNVM? Or is that a term that indicated Role = Member, Voting = Non-Voter?
Tony
From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Peter F Brown
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:53 AM
To: Peter Allor
Cc: Chet Ensign; Aharon Chernin; Terry MacDonald; Jordan, Bret; cti@lists.oasis-open.org; Richard Struse; Scott McGrath; Robin Cover; Carol Geyer
Subject: RE: [cti] Inviting nominations for Chair of Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) TC,
Pete,
Excellent point (btw, despite my address, I hold a British passport, Belgian residency permit, and a US State Department driving license!)
Jonathan,
Indeed, it is possible to join as either an “Observer” (which means exactly that – follow meetings and threads, but no posting or speaking rights at meetings) or as a “Persistent Non-Voting Member” (which allows you to contribute, post, speak, etc. but not vote nor – most importantly – have your person count towards making quorum): this last is valuable for people who are irregular attendees and who do not want to affect the overall quorum and stability of the group. I use that status on a couple of TCs when I know that I can’t commit to regular participation but want to contribute when I can. An observer or voting member who wants to transition to PNVM has to request that or the chair or secretary, there is currently no mechanism to assign oneself this role from the get go.
Cheers,
Peter
From: Peter Allor [mailto:pallor@us.ibm.com]
Sent: 10 June, 2015 08:44
To: Peter F Brown
Cc: Chet Ensign; Aharon Chernin; Terry MacDonald; Jordan, Bret; cti@lists.oasis-open.org; Richard Struse; Scott McGrath; Robin Cover; Carol Geyer
Subject: RE: [cti] Inviting nominations for Chair of Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) TC,
Peter,
Some good thoughts there.
I also endorse Rich as the chair for the first meeting, post election.
However, I suggest the following, especially for us 'Americans' to consider. We need to have another individual as a co-chair. Simply put, to not be something that OASIS is adopting only for the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
I say this as an US Person who holds a DHS Clearance and works with them but also as a Board member for FIRST, where I see this play out internationally. We truly need a private sector person and preferably, one who is involved and not from the US. This is both about adoption and perception, so please hear this reasoned thought out. Many want to use / adopt STIX/TAXII and bringing it to OASIS to make a real standard is what they are asking for but also to have input beyond that of just DHS. So while Rich has brought it this far, lets ensure we get everyone's support and push this forward.
Thus I will, for now, refrain from suggesting anyone, but want this point to be fairly considered.
Respectfully,
Pete
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Peter F Brown ---06/10/2015 11:34:27 AM---Chet, Thanks for the clarifications.
From: Peter F Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com>
To: Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>, Aharon Chernin <achernin@soltra.com>
Cc: Terry MacDonald <terry.macdonald@threatloop.com>, "Jordan, Bret" <bret.jordan@bluecoat.com>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>, Richard Struse <Richard.Struse@hq.dhs.gov>, "Scott McGrath" <scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org>, Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org>, Carol Geyer <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>
Date: 06/10/2015 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: [cti] Inviting nominations for Chair of Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) TC,
Sent by: <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
Chet,
Thanks for the clarifications.
If I may, a couple of suggestions:
- it’s probably a good idea to have a single chair to kick things off. This doesn’t mean that even by the second meeting we establish that co-chairs are a good idea. The first meeting it is good to have some clarity, simplicity and a single person steering us through the call!
- Secretary is useful, particularly for larger committees, like this one seems destined to be, can handle roll call, agenda, minutes, etc. and leave the Chair with hands free to actually concentrate on the meeting and its discussions.
- We should also remember that every deliverable from a TC needs at least one editor: In my experience, the TC’s work is better served when the roles of chair and editor are separated. The editor’s job is to ensure that texts reflect agreement or consensus in the group; the chair’s role is to steer the group towards such agreement. Editors need to be known when the TC advances onto the first step of the formal process of creating any particular deliverable – although names can be added or changed any time up to publication.
Hope this helps, regards,
Peter
Peter F Brown
Independent Consultant
CIPT, MIoD”Using Information Technologies to Empower and Transform”
www.PeterFBrown.com
From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Chet Ensign
Sent: 10 June, 2015 06:03
To: Aharon Chernin
Cc: Terry MacDonald; Jordan, Bret; cti@lists.oasis-open.org; Richard Struse; Scott McGrath; Robin Cover; Carol Geyer
Subject: Re: [cti] Inviting nominations for Chair of Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) TC,
Yes, you can.
To be clear, the call was simply to give people a chance to nominate themselves or nominate someone else to stand for Chair at the first meeting. Since Rich, as the Convener, is also a nominee for Chair, I will be running the Chair election portion of the meeting. There will also be a call for any additional nominations from the floor before the vote.
If we have only one nominee, I will ask if there are objections to unanimous approval. If there is more than one nominee, then the first question before the eligible voters will be whether or not the TC wishes to have co-Chairs. Totally up to the group.
After that, it is a matter of seat(s) and name(s). If we have more nominees than seats, I will carry out a roll call vote.
So in other words, you could well have 10 nominees for Chair at the first meeting - our process doesn't preclude that. Plus, should the TC start with a single Chair and then you decide, 3 months from now, that it is a lot of work and a Co-Chair is needed, you can hold an election then.
Also, by the way, one other formal role you may want to consider nominations for is Secretary. I don't issue calls for those & leave it up to the TC to decide in as part of their work, but the Secretary role in our platform is one that can also help the Chair(s) with the details of day-to-day work - roster and calendar maintenance, taking minutes, etc.
/chet
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Aharon Chernin <achernin@soltra.com> wrote:
Chet: should we be accepting nominations for a chair spot that may or may-not exist? Can we reopen nominations for co-chair if the TC decides one is needed?
Aharon Chernin
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From: Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:46 AM
To: Aharon Chernin
Cc: Terry MacDonald; Jordan, Bret; cti@lists.oasis-open.org; Richard Struse; Scott McGrath; Robin Cover; Carol Geyer
Subject: Re: [cti] Inviting nominations for Chair of Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) TC,
This was simply a call for nominations. As many people can be nominated as want to put themselves forward (or be put forward by others).
As a group, you can decide on one chair or two co-chairs at the first meeting.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Aharon Chernin <achernin@soltra.com> wrote:Question for Chet: are we nominating co-chairs now? Or just a single chair? I would think the decision for one or two chairs would be a topic of the first TC meeting.
Also, +1 for Rich Struse as chair.
Aharon
From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org <cti@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Terry MacDonald <terry.macdonald@threatloop.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:25:42 PM
To: Jordan, Bret
Cc: Chet Ensign; cti@lists.oasis-open.org; Richard Struse; Scott McGrath; Robin Cover; Carol Geyer
Subject: Re: [cti] Inviting nominations for Chair of Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) TC,
I second Bret as a co-chair.
Cheers
Terry MacDonald | STIX, TAXII, CybOX Consultant
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On 10 June 2015 at 03:32, Jordan, Bret <bret.jordan@bluecoat.com> wrote:Chet,
I would be interested as a co-chair
Thanks,
Bret
Bret Jordan CISSP
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Blue Coat Systems
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On Jun 9, 2015, at 07:44, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org> wrote:
To all prospective members of the Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) TC:
The first order of business at the first TC meeting is to elect a chair (or two co-chairs). If you are interested in serving as a Chair or in nominating another individual for the position of Chair, you are welcome to make that candidacy known prior to the first meeting by posting a note to the TC's e-mail list expressing your interest and/or intent along with a brief statement of your or their qualifications. The meeting will also accept nominations from any qualified persons before beginning the vote.
Please be aware that prospective members must join the TC no less than 7 days prior to the first meeting in order to be eligible to vote for TC Chair(s). To join the TC, go to the TC's web page at https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cti/ and click the "Join group" link under Roster.
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