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Subject: Re: [cti] RE: [Non-DoD Source] RE: [cti] RE: Versioning Background Docs

UUIDv5 (deterministic hash based) IDs seems good on the surface.  It is when you dive deep in to the guts of the workflow that you find that they make a mess of everything.  



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On Mar 14, 2016, at 17:37, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@newcontext.com> wrote:

Mates, Jeffrey CIV DC3/DCCI wrote this message on Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 16:43 +0000:
I certainly understand concerns about deterministic IDs breaking workflows and not working in a number of potential use cases.  It might make sense to simply allow IDs to follow the UUID v4 and UUID v5 specs.  That way organizations that want to use deterministic IDs can, while those that don't have no need to.  Ultimately because of how the UUID spec works out both will have the same length, and an outside observer will only notice a single character change between the two.

From a parsing standpoint handling something like xxxxxxxx-xxxx-4xxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx instead of xxxxxxxx-xxxx-5xxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx is pretty trivial as both will accomplish the same thing.

I don't necessarily see an issue w/ this, BUT if they do this, then
author of the object MUST NOT revision their object, and they can't
even revoke the object either, since the hash of the revoked object
will not match the original object.


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