Re: [dcml-frame] Implementation Subgroup

[Tim Howes <howes@opsware.com>]

Here are the use case docs we created when defining
the framework doc. As you can see, they were pretty
rough and not very focused. Part of our problem. :-)
           -- Tim

Zulah Eckert wrote:
>  
> Okay - I'm going to assume that the Nov 27,2004 version that I have been
> reading is roughly the same.
> 
> Was there any compilation of use scenarios to go along with this
> specification? Or requirements?
> 
> Zulah Eckert, Ph.D.
> Sr. Principal Technologist, 
> Office of the CTO
> Phone: +1-408.228.2115
> zeckert@bea.com
>  
> BEA Systems, Inc.
> Corporate Office, USA
> 2315 North First Street
> San Jose, CA 95131
> www.bea.com
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Howes [mailto:howes@opsware.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:58 PM
> To: Zulah Eckert
> Cc: Cummins, Fred A; dcml-frame@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [dcml-frame] Implementation Subgroup
> 
> Hm..Perhaps I have confused people, for which I apologize.
> Zulah, here's a link to the spec I'm talking about:
> 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dcml-frame/download.php/102
> 66/DCML%20Framework%20v13.pdf
> 
> This is the spec that we came up with a little over a year ago, just
> before the merge with OASIS. It defines the DCML syntax that one would
> use to represent information in DCML, e.g., for transmission between
> management systems.
> 
> As far as what has been decided, I don't claim that we have decided
> anything. What we've got is a proposal on the table that has not gotten
> any traction (that's the bad news), yet no other concrete proposal has
> been put forward to compete with it (that's the worse news).
> 
> So, here's what I am thinking. We need some mechanism that will help us
> judge the technical merits of our proposal, tell us whether it solves
> the problems we are trying to solve, or whether it is too complicated,
> missing key pieces, etc.
> 
> Being an engineer at heart, and having had the experience in the
> Internet standards process at IETF of coupling successfully
> implementation with standardization, I believe that is a good way to
> judge the merits of any proposal and to help focus our efforts.
>               -- Tim
> 
> Zulah Eckert wrote:
> 
>>Hi Tim,
>>
>>Could you send a pointer to the current specification that you are 
>>refering to? It would be good if we were all on the same page with 
>>respect to what has been decided.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Zulah Eckert, Ph.D.
>>Sr. Principal Technologist,
>>Office of the CTO
>>Phone: +1-408.228.2115
>>zeckert@bea.com
>> 
>>BEA Systems, Inc.
>>Corporate Office, USA
>>2315 North First Street
>>San Jose, CA 95131
>>www.bea.com
>> 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tim Howes [mailto:howes@opsware.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:01 PM
>>To: Cummins, Fred A
>>Cc: dcml-frame@lists.oasis-open.org
>>Subject: Re: [dcml-frame] Implementation Subgroup
>>
>>I agree, we need to identify the interfaces. But frankly an interface 
>>in a document is not worth nearly as much as an interface combined 
>>with an actual implemtation of that interface. And since we've already
> 
> 
>>defined the key data interface in the current specification, we should
> 
> 
>>implement it to see if it works. If it doesn't, or it's the wrong 
>>interface, or whatever, we should sharpen
>>our pencils and try again.            -- Tim
>>
>>Cummins, Fred A wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tim,
>>>
>>>My expectation was to focus on interfaces to services to achieve 
>>>interoperability between products developed by different vendors.
>>>OASIS specifications for DCML should define interfaces and product 
>>>vendors should define implementations.
>>>
>>>We should identify and specify priority interface(s) that have market 
>>>value and would be implemented by product vendors.
>>>
>>>Fred
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Tim Howes [mailto:howes@opsware.com]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:30 PM
>>>>To: dcml-frame@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>>Subject: [dcml-frame] Implementation Subgroup
>>>>
>>>>Hi all. Here's what I think the implementation subgroup that we 
>>>>talked
>>
>>
>>>>about on today's call should focus on.
>>>>Please send me your comments, but this is what I've
>>>>had in mind.                             -- Tim
>>>>
>>>>The implementation subgroup is tasked with creating a freely 
>>>>available
>>
>>
>>>>open source implementation of a DCML- based solution to the ITIL 
>>>>configuration management problem as described by the process
> 
> subgroup.
> 
>>
>>>>The first use case implemented will be one that incorporates CIM and 
>>>>other data sources. This implementation will
>>>>provide:
>>>>
>>>>- a concrete example that furthers people's understanding  of DCML, 
>>>>how it relates to CIM, and the problems that  it is meant to solve;
>>>>
>>>>- example code that will encourage vendors to create  their own 
>>>>implementations;
>>>>
>>>>- a proving ground for changes to our use cases, the  technical 
>>>>definition of DCML itself, and the relationship  between DCML and 
>>>>other standards.
>>>>
>>>>The implementation will strive to be of actual use, but more 
>>>>important
>>
>>
>>>>is its educational purpose. As such, we will strive to make it very 
>>>>easy to download and get started with (e.g., download and run in less
> 
> 
>>>>than
>>>>5 minutes).
>>>>
>>>>Our deliverables include
>>>>
>>>>- Detailed description of what we will build
>>>>
>>>>- Detailed project plan with milestones and dates
>>>>
>>>>- The software itself
>>>>
>>>>- Documentation and other materials
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>

DCML Framework Use Cases.doc

ApplicationUseCase.doc

ServerUseCase.doc