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Subject: Re: [dita-lightweight-dita] Request for exemplar templates
- From: "Michael Priestley" <mpriestl@ca.ibm.com>
- To: Don Day <donday@donrday.com>
- Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 13:45:49 -0500
Hi Don,
Sorry for the slow reply.
In the example I linked to, I just adapted
your tlotermtopic specialization, with the addition of a conref to another
file to pull in the definition for some section or other - we could leave
that off for now, but do want to get to conref-based specialization reuse
just because I think it's cool ;-)
The email with my summary/example is
the last in the thread - can you let me know what your concerns are?
Maybe we need a formal spec - I was
hoping that my last email in the thread was specific enough to code from,
but I'm not the right judge of that. Please take a look at this email in
detail and let me know if there's enough info to code a rapid prototype,
or if you have concerns that need to be addressed first (which is fine,
I just want specifics, relative to the existing proposal):
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita-lightweight-dita/201509/msg00027.html
Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Enterprise Content Technology Strategist
mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
http://dita.xml.org/blog/michael-priestley
From:
Don Day <donday@donrday.com>
To:
dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org
Date:
01/26/2016 02:00 PM
Subject:
[dita-lightweight-dita]
Request for exemplar templates
Sent by:
<dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
Michael, of the templates that have been discussed, are
any of them a reasonably simple exemplar that we should start with? Perhaps
we need to start off with a "should do this" dummy example that
does not yet carry extra requirements that would distract from getting
to a proof point quickly. I seem to recall that parts of the syntax we'll
be parsing may not be expressible as valid or perhaps even well-formed
XML, so we need to get past that hurdle first, for example.
Also, for the templates that have been discussed, has each one's final
design been documented, or will we need to read the discussion to arrive
at the vetted design? I just don't have a sense of completion on those
discussions. (And if this was covered at Monday's meeting, I deserve being
lashed with wet angle brackets.)
--
Don
On 1/26/2016 10:29 AM, Michael Priestley wrote:
Should we use the new OASIS open repository
process for this work?
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201601/msg00011.html
Let's us do this as an officially sanctioned
OASIS opensource project at github.
Re inputs/outputs:
- input would be a topic that uses the updated
doctype (with new elems/atts) as described in the email summary linked
below
- output would be (at least initially) a
single-file doctype definition using either DTD syntax, RNG syntax, or
XSD syntax that defines the new specialization and provides the validation
rules for it
Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Enterprise Content Technology Strategist
mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
http://dita.xml.org/blog/michael-priestley
----- Original message -----
From: Mark Giffin <mark@markgiffin.com>
Sent by: <dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
To: Don Day <donday@donrday.com>
Cc: Carlos Evia <cevia@vt.edu>,
tgrantham@timgrantham.com,
"dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org"<dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: [dita-lightweight-dita] Generating schemas from templates
Date: Mon, Jan 25, 2016 12:23 PM
Hi Don,
I'm the culprit who volunteered you, I figured you would be interested.
Also involved in this are Tim Grantham and Carlos Evia. In the meeting
Michael P talked about making the tool that would convert a template to
a specialization, based on the info at the bottom of this email and especially
this thread:
http://markmail.org/message/pd4u5kfg44xp5x5c
Michael wanted XSLT that would run on the template file and output a specialization.
I believe this output includes a topic and also a schema, and I mentioned
making a RelaxNG schema. But I'm a bit muddy on what the output would be
exactly, please correct me or verify.
Mark Giffin
Mark Giffin Consulting, Inc.
http://markgiffin.com/
On 1/25/2016 9:03 AM, Don Day wrote:
My apologies to all; I intended to meet but
had the wrong time in mind. I deserve to have been volunteered for far
worse; this fate looks acceptable. If anyone captured some insights that
would be helpful, please put those in an email to the under a clear subject
line so that we can discuss the approach (e.g., "Generating schemas
from templates"). Thanks!
--
Don
On 1/25/2016 10:53 AM, Michael Priestley
wrote:
Per our call today - there's a link
below to the draft specialization architecture.
Mark, Carlos, Tim, and Don have (been) volunteered to take that email and
implement it:
- adding the required elements/attributes to the base topic/map DTDs
- creating XSLT to generate RNG (or DTD, XSD...) from a template topic
(ie any DITA topic, with/without use of the new template attributes/elements)
Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Enterprise Content Technology Strategist
mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
http://dita.xml.org/blog/michael-priestley
----- Forwarded by Michael Priestley/Toronto/IBM on 01/25/2016 11:48 AM
-----
From: Michael
Priestley/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
To: dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org
Date: 01/11/2016
09:59 AM
Subject: [dita-lightweight-dita]
Current status of lightweight DITA spec
Sent by: <dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
Here's where I think we are:
Draft doctypes for topic/map:
https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/dita/subcommittees/LightweightDITA/org.oasis.lwdita/
Draft specialization architecture:
http://markmail.org/message/pd4u5kfg44xp5x5c
Industry/domain validation:
- learning and training - analyzed scenarios, proposed new specializations
adapting to lightweight model
- marketing - analyzed scenarios, working towards new specialization proposals
- software development - analyzed scenarios
- machine industries - analyzed scenarios
Cross-format mappings:
- markdown and HTML5 in progress, need updating
- JSON investigated
- others proposed: PPT, other slide formats, Word
Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Enterprise Content Technology Strategist
mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
http://dita.xml.org/blog/michael-priestley
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