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Subject: RE: [dita-lightweight-dita] template approach for specialization
- From: "Michael Priestley" <mpriestl@ca.ibm.com>
- To: "Birgit Strackenbrock" <birgit@xstructuring.eu>
- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 09:00:00 -0400
This presentation includes an overview
- I can send you the link to a recording as well if that would be useful:
http://www.slideshare.net/mpriestley/lightweight-dita-a-preoverview
Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Enterprise Content Technology Strategist
mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
From:
"Birgit Strackenbrock"
<birgit@xstructuring.eu>
To:
Michael Priestley/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
Cc:
<dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org>,
"'Eva de Haas'" <eva.de.haas@liones.nl>
Date:
08/26/2016 03:14 AM
Subject:
RE: [dita-lightweight-dita]
template approach for specialization
Sent by:
<dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
One more question.
Is there a document with describes the
template approach or should I have to use http://markmail.org/message/pd4u5kfg44xp5x5cand other mails?
Van: Birgit Strackenbrock [mailto:birgit@xstructuring.eu]
Verzonden: vrijdag 26 augustus 2016 09:03
Aan: 'Michael Priestley' <mpriestl@ca.ibm.com>
CC: 'dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org' <dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org>;
'Eva de Haas' <eva.de.haas@liones.nl>
Onderwerp: RE: [dita-lightweight-dita] template approach for specialization
Dear Michael,
That’s right.
We will try how we can achieve the specialization
we want with the template approach. As fare as we have some “templates”
we will send.
Kind regards, Birgit
Van: Michael Priestley [mailto:mpriestl@ca.ibm.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 25 augustus 2016 23:12
Aan: Birgit Strackenbrock <birgit@xstructuring.eu>
CC: dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org;
'Eva de Haas' <eva.de.haas@liones.nl>
Onderwerp: Re: [dita-lightweight-dita] template approach for specialization
Hi Birgit,
As others have said, there is no direct way to get your specializations
from a template-based approach today.
However, the template-based approach comes with some assumptions, which
hopefully we can reflect in the design of your specializations.
1) no block domains (these actually have only ever been allowed at phrase,
attribute, or data element level - this restriction predates the template
mechanism)
2) specialization always happens within a specialized topic (this is new
with templates)
3) you can reuse specialized elements across specializations by using conref
in the template files, so you won't miss block-level domains so much (this
is new with the template mechanism, but doesn't affect you since you're
not reusing any elements from other specializations anyway)
There is one very minor change that would need to happen to make your specialization
compatible with the template based approach:
- add specialized topic/body elements so that the doctype can be used directly
for authoring
There are also some other comments we have, which are not related to the
template-based approach, but reflect concerns about which element you chose
as a base, the availability of attributes in ancestor elements, etc.
For example, two of your list structures are specialized from ul, but seem
to be a more natural fit with dl; and one of your list structures is specialized
from fig, but seems a more natural fit with ul. And there is an element
with an href attribute, when its ancestor element doesn't have an href
attribute. We can talk through these in detail in our meeting.
Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Enterprise Content Technology Strategist
mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
From: "Birgit
Strackenbrock" <birgit@xstructuring.eu>
To: <dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
Cc: "'Eva
de Haas'" <eva.de.haas@liones.nl>
Date: 08/24/2016
07:49 AM
Subject: [dita-lightweight-dita]
template approach for specialization
Sent by: <dita-lightweight-dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
Hi Michael,
At the last LW call Jan has presented the LW marketing specialization we
are working on. One comment/question was:
- We might not have used the correct specialization mechanism. LW DITA
supports the template-based specialization, we did it the “old way”.
And for sure, we didn’t used the template approach.
Now, I have read again all mails about the template approach and I thing
I understand it more or less. I could make a template like the one in http://markmail.org/message/pd4u5kfg44xp5x5cbut
I am wondering how I can get/generate the DTD or better XSD from this.
Do I need a special tool and/or scripts?
And yes, I do wonder if the template approach really is much easier than
the “old way” as used in standard DITA. Maybe an advantage is that the
specialization will not become more complex than the basic topic and elements.
Kind regards, Birgit
<www.xstructuring.eu>
<info@xstructuring.eu>
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