MEETING MINUTES -- 20 March 2006 -- DITA TRANSLATION SUBCOMMITTEE

["Gershon L Joseph" <gershon@tech-tav.com>]

Best Regards,
Gershon

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MEETING MINUTES -- 20 March 2006 -- DITA TRANSLATION SUBCOMMITTEE
(Minutes taken by Gershon Joseph <gershon@tech-tav.com>)

Date: Monday, 20 March 2006
Time: 08:00 - 09:00 PST

DITA Translation Subcommittee resources:
- SC Web site:
    http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita-translation/index.php
- Mailing list: dita-translation@lists.oasis-open.org
- Non-OASIS members please email Gershon or Don and we'll post on
    your behalf

Roll Call
- Present: JoAnn, Rodolfo, Andrzej, Gershon, Kevin, Robert, Charles, Don, 
	   Felix, Patrick, Bruce, Nancy
- Regrets:
 
Review/approve minutes from previous meeting (13 March 2006)
- http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita-translation/200603/msg00033.html
- Correction to the minutes:
    Felix Sasaki's action concerns the ITS working draft in general, on 
    which the ITS working group would like to get feedback. He will send 
    in the working draft within the next weeks.
- Andrzej moves to accept the minutes as amended, Don accepts.
 
Announcement: The three proposals of the SC were approved by the OASIS DITA TC 
    on 14 March 2006. Thank you all for your contributions.

New Business

- Review Andrzej Zydron's workflow proposal
    - Andrzej presents proposal...
    - Don -- Asks for a version of the lifecycle without xml-tm.
    - Rodolfo -- see XLIFF-based white papers on Web; don't need CMS, just 
        transform XML to XLIFF, apply XML skeleton, translate, etc. 
	Similar cycle to what Andrzej presented, just without xml-tm.
	Can still get exact matches via the TM DB.
    --ACTION ITEM-- Rodolfo to send link to lifecycle white papers to SC
    - [Discussion about whether CMS is required for xml-tm]
        Could any file system that supports versioning work?
    - Andrzej -- Yes, but if you're serious about DITA you need version 
        control and lifecycle tracking. Loose so much in terms of control 
	without CMS. xml-tm needs some form of version control, but does not 
	require full-blown CMS.

- Begin the discussions of the information to be included in the DITA 
    Architecture Specification 1.1 and in the Best Practice recommendations:
    a) xml:lang 
    b) dir attribute
    - Gershon presented overview of the open issues regarding best practices
        for xml:lang and dir attributes. Summary: prefer markup via these 
	attributes (in suitable phrase or block element, as relevant) over 
	using Unicode markers to indicate language and directionality 
	boundaries.
    - Bruce -- How do you handle email discussion [relating to output, 
        particularly top-to-bottom type flows]? XML with embedded Unicode 
	markers? How do we specify directionality in output?
    - Don -- xml:lang should be used for that.
    - Bruce -- Should authors provide directionality [top-bottom, not only 
        left-right]?
    - Don -- No, W3C saw need only for dir attribute, so it should work for 
        DITA too. No need for DITA to resolve vertical direction, since no 
	other source standards address it at this time.
    --ACTION ITEM-- Gershon to update his original xml:lang doc and send to group
    --ACTION ITEM-- Gershon to update his original dir attribute doc and 
        send to Kevin who will add comments related to output.

Meeting adjourned.