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Subject: Re: [dita-translation] DITA Translation Subcommittee
Hi Kara,
Many thanks for your response and the excellent work that you put
together regarding the glossary proposal.
Acronyms are a special case, and must be handled correctly. Acronyms are
ubiquitous in technical documentation and their presentation and
translation require special care. Any glossary related proposal should
treat acronyms properly as a special case.
Best Regards,
AZ
Chris Wong wrote:
> There already is a glossary topic in the draft DITA 1.1 proposal, but
> it's substantially stripped down compared to the proposal you pointed us
> to below. It consists of term/definition element pairs: no glossdetail.
> That's certainly a step up from <term>, but I don't think it's that
> useful from your perspective as a terminologist as there is no way to
> connect terms conceptually: it's lexicological rather than
> terminological. What are your thoughts on that?
>
> Sample markup from the DITA 1.1 draft (lang ref):
>
> <glossentry id="ddl">
> <glossterm>Data Definition Language</glossterm>
> <glossdef>A formal language used for defining database
> schemas....</glossdef>
> </glossentry>
>
> Chris
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kara Warburton [mailto:KARA@CA.IBM.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:29 AM
> To: Andrzej Zydron
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> Subject: Re: [dita-translation] DITA Translation Subcommittee
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> Has anyone looked at the glossary specification proposal that I have had
> in the DITA queue for several years now?
>
> Here it is... comments are welcome, especially since, its been so long,
> it probably needs revising again...
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/15140/Issue14.html
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> IBM has been waiting patiently for something like this to be introduced
> to DITA so that we have something more than definition list markup for
> glossary content.
>
> Kara Warburton
> IBM LanguageWare & Terminology
> Team Lead, Language & Data Integration
> 905-413-2170
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> IBM terminology: http://w3.ibm.com/standards/terminology
> LanguageWare: http://languageware.redirect.webahead.ibm.com/
> My blog: http://blogs.tap.ibm.com/weblogs/page/kara@ca.ibm.com
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> Andrzej Zydron
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> Hi JoAnn,
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> As far as I can tell, there is no DITA element specifically designed for
> acronyms/abbreviations. Please correct me if I am wrong. Acronyms
> feature very often in technical documentation and their treatment in
> translation poses some interesting issues.
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> I have the following proposal for the main DITA TC:
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> A new <acronym> element that can occur anywhere within PCDATA. The
> acronym will have an 'id' attribute that will be the acronym itself,
> e.g. <acronym id="ABS"/>. The <acronym> element will be resolved via a
> conref attribute to the full acronym text, e.g. acronym id="ABS"
> conref="aconyms.dita#abs"/>. The entry in the aconyms.dita file will be:
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> <acronym name="abs">Anti-lock Break System</acronym>
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> At compose time, when you are putting together the publication you can
> print the full form the first time around, but in parentheses to get
> around any potential problems when translating into inflected languages:
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> <p>The <acroym id="ABS" conref="aconyms.dita#abs"/> facility will
> prevent the car from skidding.</p>
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> This will be published as:
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> The ABS (Anti-lock Break System) facility will prevent the car from
> skidding.
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> This is in reverse to what would normally be printed, e.g.
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> Anti-lock Break System (ABS)
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> But this is perfectly acceptable and gets around translation problems
> with inflected languages.
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> Best Regards,
>
> AZ
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