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Subject: DITA Translation Subcommittee Meeting Minutes: 7 May 2007
DITA Translation Subcommittee Meeting Minutes: 7 May 2007
1) Roll Call
Don Day
Gershon Joseph
Rodolfo Raya
Robert Anderson
JoAnn Hackos
Andrzej Zydron
2) Accept Minutes from 16 April 2007 and 23 April 2007. Attached.
Accepted.
3) Review open action items
3.1 ACTION: Gershon to investigate whether he can use a client's samples.
Gershon will assemble all the examples into the template for the TC
CONTINUED. [Client requested Gershon to mark up required parts in DITA,
then submit for approval by legal folks]
3.2 ACTION: Gershon and Don will present the approved best practices on
indexing and Translation Memory as committee drafts for approval by the DITA
Technical Committee.
CONTINUED. Gershon to complete marking up in DITA XML and complete OASIS
customization and deliver to TC for review.
Don asked Gershon to make new Wiki page with links to the latest drafts
of the Translation SC BPs for review.
Gershon stile working on marking up in DITA. When ready, we'll take to TC.
3.5 ACTION: Rodolfo will continue to work on the Best Practice for XLIFF
CONTINUED.
3.6 ACTION: Gershon will prepare the multilingual and the other Best Practices in the OASIS
template for the TC approval.
3.7 ACTION: JoAnn will try writing the sort order addition to the indexing
Best Practice for review.
3.8 ACTION: JoAnn will contact Richard Ishida to get clarification on the
need for a pronunciation element or attribute for the acronym proposal.
IN PROGRESS -- note sent to Richard. JoAnn raised the issue at the OASIS
Symposium with the Accessibility working group headed by Peter Brunet from
IBM. They are working on accessibility for ODF. Suggested that DITA be
included in the accessibility discussions.
JoAnn updated SC on the OASIS symposium and DITA leads that came out of that.
Ongoing thread on screen readers and their ability to process pronunciation codes.
4) Returning business:
4.1 Review latest version of Andrzej's acronym proposal.
Reviewed the latest draft of the proposal. Discussion of the mis-spelled acronym;
it was a typo that should be corrected (need to put the 'r' back).
Robert pointed out the first example with conref is missing the topic
ID on the conref attribute value.
Robert: Add example of when auto processing works, and when it won't.
This will address Kara's concerns (who says is can be automated) and
Rodolfo/Andrzej who mention languages where it is no possible to use
auto processing.
Andrzej: There are 2 issues. Spanish e.g. has no acronym for some items.
Kara's assumption is we can treat acronym the same way for all languages,
which is not a viable solution. The current TC proposal caters for all
cases.
Robert: Change our example to include a long tag and omit the short tag.
Rodolfo: If you automatically translate to Spanish, you can put the English
acronym in parentheses after the term in Spanish. Auto-processing
can't do this.
Decision to add example of Spanish where you include the English acronym
after the translation and another example (Polish) with the acronym before
the text. This will show that the acronym processing is language-specific.
Even though the language-specific behavior can be done by automating each
language, but for example Polish where sometimes the acronym goes before
and other times it's after we need an example to show this.
Robert: Not a good idea to specialize off <data>, but Robert will send
comments to the list with a better proposal. Should be specialized from
keyword.
Don raised the issue of "OASIS", where the acronym is a word in English.
Rodolfo gave example. JoAnn asked for example to be added showing this.
Add this example in Spanish.
Andrzej: Another good example is DVD and CD-ROM, where they may not be
understood the first time they are used (if the reader is not technical).
Can't assume the user understands, so they should be defined the first
time they are used.
JoAnn suggested perhaps some of these should be used to build a best practice.
4.2 Discuss Rodolfo's proposed additions to the Indexing best practice.
5) New business:
5.1 JoAnn's report on the OASIS symposium.
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