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Subject: RE: DITA Proposed Feature # 12035
Thank you, Felix, I've forwarded your comment to Deborah Pickett at Moldflow. She is responsible for the original proposal to the DITA TC. However also interested in the possibility of using <ruby> to resolve a dilemma we have in the Translation SC of DITA for the presentation of acronyms. Please look at the current acronym proposal at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/TranslationSubcommittee This is our committee wiki. We are having difficulty with the issue of inflected languages and those languages in which the short form of the acronym is placed before the expanded form. Your comments would be most welcome, JoAnn JoAnn T. Hackos, PhD President Comtech Services, Inc. 710 Kipling Street, Suite 400 Denver, CO 80215 303-232-7586 joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com joannhackos Skype www.comtech-serv.com -----Original Message----- From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 12:54 AM To: JoAnn Hackos Cc: dita-translation@lists.oasis-open.org; mambrose@sdl.com; bhertz@sdl.com; Bryan Schnabel; charles_pau@us.ibm.com; christian.lieske@sap.com; dpooley@sdl.com; dschell@us.ibm.com; esrig-ia@esrig.com; rfletcher@sdl.com; Howard.Schwartz; ishida@w3.org; tony.jewtushenko@productinnovator.com; KARA@CA.IBM.COM; ysavourel@translate.com Subject: Re: DITA Proposed Feature # 12035 this comment is only partially specific to Japanese. Richard might have more input on that aspect. You describe the purpose of the feature as: "The intent of this proposed feature is to give authors the ability to decouple the collation order of an element from its textual appearance." However, what you actually do is to give an additional textual appearance, which is used for collation order. Now, adding additional information to a base text is the main purpose of Ruby markup, see the example below: <li><ruby><rb>The Alan Parsons Project</rb<rt>Parsons, Alan</rt></ruby></li> I am not arguing that you should use Ruby markup, but I think there is an advantage of clearer alignment between the base text and the additional textual appearance than in your original proposal. So maybe you might use the structure of ruby markup with appropriate naming: <li><coll><collb>The Alan Parsons Project</collb><collate-as>Parsons, Alan</collate-as></coll></li> note that this has also the advantage that you can group several collate-as elements. Felix JoAnn Hackos wrote: > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/24568/dita-proposal-co > llation-newtemplate.html > > Hello Members of the Translation Subcommittee: > > Please review this proposal for a generic collation element to affect > Japanese. In particular, would Rodolfo and Richard Ischida please > review. > > During the Techncial Committee meeting today, we discussed constraining > this new element only to <title> and all its specializations, which > would including <glossaryentry>. > > JoAnn >
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