MEETING MINUTES -- 28 SEPT 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE

[Don Day <dond@us.ibm.com>]

Posted for Seraphim Larsen

MEETING MINUTES -- 28 SEPT 2004 -- DITA
TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
*** Please see Action Items and Decision
Summary at the end *** 


** Agenda ** 
------------ 
    1. Roll call

    2. Review/approve minutes
from 21 September (look in the mailing
       list archives
before the meeting) and from 14 September (no
       quorum last
week)
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00010.html

    3. Feasibility of a TC
F2F?

    4. Terminology
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00032.html

    5. Style wrapup (no recent
discussion on the list). We do not
       need to design
a mechanism, just have an idea where we are
       headed, and
have recommendations for current users.

    6. Provide DITA perspective
to TAC?(subgroup of Interchange of
       DATA between
Administrations, a European standards activity)
       http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00036.html


    7. Wrapup of containment
discussion:
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00026.html
          and
many following

    8. Resume discussion on
previous and unfinished issues:
        - Any new
feedback/action on @scale usage? (Don proposes
          that
we document clearly the expected behavior of @scale,
          and
keep it for now for best legacy compatibility)
        - Any new
feedback on migration mitigation for tables?

    9. DTD cleanup
        - Alignment
convention (elements, attributes, comments,
          etc.)
        - Testing
the DTDs and Schemas

    10. AOB? 

    - Schedule reminder:
        - 17 Aug
2004 
           
    - First major milestone -- complete first draft of
           
      first section and send out for review.  
           
    - Begin review of 1st section.
        - 07 Sep
2004
           
    - Complete review/revision of 1st section; begin
           
      review of 2nd section.
        - 28 Sep
2004
           
    - Complete review/revision of 2nd section; begin
           
      review of 3rd section.  
        - 19 Oct
2004
           
    - Complete review/revision of 3rd section; beginning
           
      of final review
        - 02 Nov
2004
           
    - Complete final review
        - 16 Nov
2004
           
    - Release 1.0 spec to OASIS


** Minutes ** 
------------- 
    1. Roll call
        - We do
have quorum today (16/21)
        - Members:
Paul Grosso, Wendy Hambleton, Michael Priestley,
          Paul
Antonov, France Baril, Mary McRae, Eliot Kimber, Seraphim
          Larsen,
Bruce Esrig, Indie Liepa, Robin Cover, Rob Frankland,
          Stanley
Doherty, Sharon Veach, Jerry Smith, Don Day

          Observers
and visitors: David Brainard, Erik Hennum, Eric Sirois,
          Kirsten
Nothstine, Eric Hixson

    2. Review/approve minutes
from 21 September and from
        14 September
(no quorum last week)
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00039.html
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00010.html
        - Minutes
from 21 Sept approved.
        - Minutes
from 14 Sept approved.

    3. Feasibility of a TC
F2F?
        - Need to
be sure we make the best use of the F2F -- not
          just
for reviewing documents, for example.  Best to use it
          for
anything requiring lengthy discussion (resolving
          technical
issues, for example).
        - Mary Macrae
will take an action item to get the dates for
          the
OASIS forum in New Orleans as a possible venue for the
          F2F.

        - We'll
revisit this after we complete the 1.0 release.

    4. Terminology
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00032.html
        - Erik Hennum
gave a quick summary.
        - Discussion
followed -- but we don't need to close now.
          Eliot
will move the discussion to the list. 

    5. Style wrapup (no recent
discussion on the list). We do not
       need to design
a mechanism, just have an idea where we are
       headed, and
have recommendations for current users.
        - Don will
continue driving this discussion on the list.

    6. Provide DITA perspective
to TAC? (subgroup of Interchange of
       DATA between
Administrations, a European standards activity)
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00036.html

        - Don will
compose a short note to them.  

    7. Wrapup of containment
discussion:
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00026.html
          and
many following
        - Anything
here will be post-1.0.  Let's continue with the
          discussion,
but flag it as a post-1.0 and keep off the
          agenda
till then.

    8. Resume discussion on
previous and unfinished issues:
        - Any new
feedback/action on @scale usage? (Don proposes
          that
we document clearly the expected behavior of @scale,
          and
keep it for now for best legacy compatibility)
           
- Proposal accepted.  

        - Any new
feedback on migration mitigation for tables?
           
- Proposal:
           
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00009.html
           
- Original description:
           
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200408/msg00042.html
           
- We will vote on this on a ballot.  Don will do the
           
  ballot.  

    9. DTD cleanup -- No time,
not covered.

    10. AOB? -- No time, not
covered.


** Summary of Decisions ** 
-------------------------- 
    - Proposal accepted:  To
document clearly the expected behavior
      of @scale and keep
it for now for best legacy compatibility.
        

** Action Required ** 
--------------------- 
    017 Shawn Jordan -- Post
to the TC list his ideas about general
        extensibility
and the creation of new elements not
        necessarily
descended from the Topic element. Still open
        (not an
immediate deliverable -- for post-1.0). 

    021 JoAnn Hackos, Michael
Priestley -- Summarize the discussion
        of substitution
and post to the TC list. Still pending as of
        7/20/04.


    022 Don, Michael -- Put
together a "self-study" tutorial/demo,
        as per JoAnn's
comments regarding the DITA sessions. Still
        pending
as of 7/20/04. 

    036 Shawn Jordan -- Investigate
where to point the DITA
        namespace
-- where does the URL point? Maybe an OASIS page
        that describes
what DITA does, etc.   Still pending 8/17/04.

    040 Don -- Cull the past
minutes and discussion list to create
        an inventory
of all the things we need to close on in order
        to create
the 1.0 spec.  Create a list of these items and
        post it
in the Documents area of the website.  >>> This will
        be ongoing.

    043 Michael Priestley
-- Add a straw-man audience statement to
        the introduction.
 <<< Still pending as of 9/7/04.

    051 Don Day, 9/7/04 --
Take the discussion of @scale attribute
        and related
issues to the list (presentation mechanisms).

    052 Don Day, 9/14/04 --
Is anyone other than IBM actually using
        the scale
attribute? Don to ask on dita-users forum; get
        usage info
for next week's discussion. <<< We haven't heard
        from anyone
else, so we'll assume that IBM is the primary
        user that
has significant legacy usage of the @scale
        attribute.
 Closed 9/28/04.

    054 Erik Hennum, 9/14/04
-- Provide a comment about vocabulary
        (terminology
discussion) to the list.

    055 Don, 9/21/04 -- Take
the @scale discussion to the list.
        Ongoing.

    056 Mary Macrae, 9/28/04
-- Get the dates for the OASIS forum in
        New Orleans
as a possible venue for the DITA F2F.

    057 Eliot Kimber, 9/28/04
-- Move the discussion on terminology
        (and meta-terminology)
to the list.

    058 Don Day, 9/28/04 --
Compose a short note to the TAC.

    059 Don Day, 9/28/04 --
Open a ballot to decide whether to keep
        the full
set of features for mitigating table migration.


** Issues to be Resolved ** 
--------------------------- 
    005 All -- What should
the scope and length of the conceptual
        introduction
be?  >>> We'll get this from JoAnn.

    006 All -- Should DITA
specialization mechanism be documented in
        a separate
specification in order to make it easier to use
        in other
XML applications that otherwise have no
        relationship
to topic-based writing? >>> Ongoing.

    008 Namespace Subcommittee
-- Decide namespace issues.  New as
        of 8/31/04.

    009 "Best Practices"
document -- Let's put this on the agenda
        for future
discussion.

    010 Relationship between
DITA and other topic-based
        architectures
(such as S1000D) -- Need to incorporate this
        into the
"Best Practices" document.

    011 All -- Revisit use
of @scale on image (general treatment of
        graphics,
ie raster vs vector assumptions, etc.).
        Compare/contrast
with controls for the <object> element,
        which in
HTML subsumes the <img> element.
    

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