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Subject: MEETING MINUTES -- 02 NOV 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES -- 2 Nov 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
*** Please see Action Items and Decision Summary at the end ***
** Agenda **
------------
0. Scribe for today's minutes
1. Roll call
2. Review/approve minutes from 12 October
- http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00004.html
3. Specification status (watch the list for notices of latest
updates)
- PDF:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00000.html
- CHM:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00001.html
- zipped source:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00002.html
4. Tables
- accessibility
- original note:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00009.html
- follow-up:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00003.html
- dita features for tables:
-
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00009.html
5. Recommendation on namespaces
- http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00015.html
6. List issues:
- terminology: "vocabulary" or "document type"
- dita-users: image/@align, tm/image
7. DTD cleanup
- (Oct 5: France Baril will investigate and return with some
options)
8. Announcements (will post this info to the list if we don't cover
today)
- OASIS Forum in New orleans (Lapeyre)
- XML 2004 posters (Lapeyre)
- DITA track at Content Management conference (Hackos)
- OASIS Symposium: The Future of XML Vocabularies (Harnad)
9. AOB?
- Schedule reminder:
- 17 Aug 2004
- First major milestone -- complete first draft of
first section and send out for review.
- Begin review of 1st section.
- 07 Sep 2004
- Complete review/revision of 1st section; begin
review of 2nd section.
- 28 Sep 2004
- Complete review/revision of 2nd section; begin
review of 3rd section.
- 19 Oct 2004
- Complete review/revision of 3rd section; beginning
of final review
- 02 Nov 2004
- Complete final review
- 16 Nov 2004
- Release 1.0 spec to OASIS
** Minutes **
-------------
0. Scribe for today's minutes
- Seraphim is back on board to take the minutes.
1. Roll call
- 12 of 18 -- we do have a quorum
- Roll Call to be posted to the TC List separately.
2. Review/approve minutes from 12 October
- http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00004.html
- Minutes approved.
3. Specification status (watch the list for notices of latest
updates)
- PDF:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00000.html
- CHM:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00001.html
- zipped source:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00002.html
- Action Item for everyone -- Provide comments to Michael
Priestley on the draft over the next week -- provide
comments to Michael by Friday (Action Item 063). Then
Michael will have the next iteration ready for the 11/9
meeting (Action Item 064).
- We will continue this process till we are closer to
completion.
- We will shoot for 12/15 for final release, but Michael
thinks it could possibly take till mid-January.
4. Tables
- Accessibility
- original note:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00009.html
- follow-up:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00003.html
- Discussion --
- Don -- Liason with DocBook -- we need to keep up
a relationship here. It would be nice if both
DocBook and DITA had the same approach to handling
CALS/HTML formats for tables.
- Michael Priestley -- Are we deferring any
functionality currently used by IBM, to the 2.0
release?
- Don -- No, we are deferring only the accessibility
issued mentioned in the msg00009 above.
- Don -- For 1.0, Don proposes that we postpone
discussion of the issue of accessibility. DocBook
will take a while to implement this anyway.
- Proposal --
- Don proposes to defer the accessibility issue to
post-1.0; we will track it together with DocBook
at that point.
- Decision -- Proposal accepted by acclamation.
- DITA features for tables:
-
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00009.html
-- This basically shows the differences between the
DITA model and the Exchange model.
- Discussion --
- Let's strike @expanse from this list, since we'll
inherit @pgwidth from the Exchange model.
- Let's add %id-atts to <entry>
- Action Item for Don -- Don will edit the msg00009 to
incorporate the changes based on our discussion, and
send out again as a new proposal (to be decided by
ballot, or at next meeting with no discussion --
discussion to take place by email). (Action Item
065).
5. Recommendation on namespaces
- http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00015.html
- Proposal -- Bruce Esrig proposes that the message
discussed here, with the modifications indicated below, be
adopted.
- (Item 1) Attribute *will* be renamed to
DITAArchVersion
- (Item 2) The OASIS TC will *recommend* this design
pattern for all shells.
- Decision -- Proposal accepted by acclamation.
6. List issues:
- terminology: "vocabulary" or "document type"
- dita-users: image/@align, tm/image
7. DTD cleanup
- (Oct 5: France Baril will investigate and return with some
options)
8. Announcements (will post this info to the list if we don't cover
today)
- OASIS Forum in New orleans (Lapeyre)
- XML 2004 posters (Lapeyre)
- DITA track at Content Management conference (Hackos)
- OASIS Symposium: The Future of XML Vocabularies (Harnad)
9. AOB?
** Summary of Decisions **
--------------------------
- Decision -- Defer the accessibility issue to post-1.0; we will
track it
together with DocBook at that point. (See Item 4 in minutes.)
- Decision -- Make changes to the namespace recommendations, as
indicated in the minutes. (See Item 5 in minutes.)
** Action Required **
---------------------
017 Shawn Jordan -- Post to the TC list his ideas about general
extensibility and the creation of new elements not
necessarily descended from the Topic element. Still open
(not an immediate deliverable -- for post-1.0).
021 JoAnn Hackos, Michael Priestley -- Summarize the discussion
of substitution and post to the TC list. Still pending as of
7/20/04.
022 Don, Michael -- Put together a "self-study" tutorial/demo,
as per JoAnn's comments regarding the DITA sessions. Still
pending as of 7/20/04.
036 Shawn Jordan -- Investigate where to point the DITA
namespace -- where does the URL point? Maybe an OASIS page
that describes what DITA does, etc. Still pending 8/17/04.
040 Don -- Cull the past minutes and discussion list to create
an inventory of all the things we need to close on in order
to create the 1.0 spec. Create a list of these items and
post it in the Documents area of the website. >>> This will
be ongoing.
043 Michael Priestley -- Add a straw-man audience statement to
the introduction. <<< Done as of 11/2/04.
051 Don Day, 9/7/04 -- Take the discussion of @scale attribute
and related issues to the list (presentation mechanisms).
052 Don Day, 9/14/04 -- Is anyone other than IBM actually using
the scale attribute? Don to ask on dita-users forum; get
usage info for next week's discussion. <<< We haven't heard
from anyone else, so we'll assume that IBM is the primary
user that has significant legacy usage of the @scale
attribute. Closed 9/28/04.
054 Erik Hennum, 9/14/04 -- Provide a comment about vocabulary
(terminology discussion) to the list.
055 Don, 9/21/04 -- Take the @scale discussion to the list.
Ongoing.
058 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Compose a short note to the TAC.
10/12/04 -- Need to write up the notes.
059 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Open a ballot to decide whether to keep
the full set of features for mitigating table migration.
060 Indi Liepa, 10/05/04 -- forward comments from audit of
Nokia's specialization process Closed today: Indi Leepa
comments. Have been transmitted to DITA user group. <<< Done
as of 11/2/04.
061 Don Day, 10/05/04 -- reply to image align and tm notes in
dita-users.
062 Eric Sirois, 10/05/04 -- provide XSLT validation for
specialized schemas once developed (Indi recommends Jarno to
work with him)
063 All, 11/02/04 -- Provide comments to Michael
Priestley on the draft over the next week -- provide
comments to Michael by Friday 11/5/04. (See item 3 in the
11/02/04 minutes for URLs).
064 Michael Priestley, 11/02/04 -- Incorporate comments into
draft specification; prepare new iteration for 11/9
meeting.
065 Don Day, 11/02/04 -- Don will edit the msg00009 to
incorporate the changes based on our discussion, and send
out again as a new proposal (to be decided by ballot, or at
next meeting with no discussion -- discussion to take place
by email).
** Issues to be Resolved **
---------------------------
005 All -- What should the scope and length of the conceptual
introduction be? >>> We'll get this from JoAnn.
006 All -- Should DITA specialization mechanism be documented in
a separate specification in order to make it easier to use
in other XML applications that otherwise have no
relationship to topic-based writing? >>> Ongoing.
008 Namespace Subcommittee -- Decide namespace issues. New as
of 8/31/04.
009 "Best Practices" document -- Let's put this on the agenda
for future discussion.
010 Relationship between DITA and other topic-based
architectures (such as S1000D) -- Need to incorporate this
into the "Best Practices" document.
011 All -- Revisit use of @scale on image (general treatment of
graphics, ie raster vs vector assumptions, etc.).
Compare/contrast with controls for the <object> element,
which in HTML subsumes the <img> element.
<END>
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Seraphim Larsen ICG Technical Publications
Technical Writer Intel Corporation
(480) 552-6504 Chandler, AZ
The content of this message is my personal opinion only.
Although I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make
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