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Subject: DITA Technical Committee Meeting Minutes:10 June 2008
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OASIS DITA TC: Roadmap for DITA development
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Agenda for 10 June 2008:
DITA TC Wiki: http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/FrontPage
8:00-8:05 Roll call
Approve minutes from previous business meetings:
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http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200806/msg00005.html (3 June 2008)
Don Day made motion to approve minutes
Second - Chris Kovo
Approved by acclamation
Business:
1. ITEM: Subcommittee reports (as needed)
* OASIS DITA Translation Subcommittee
* OASIS DITA Learning Content Subcommittee
* OASIS DITA Machine Industry Subcommittee
* OASIS DITA Semiconductor Information Design Subcommittee
* OASIS DITA for Enterprise Business Documents Subcommittee
* OASIS DITA Help Subcommittee <-- Stan Doherty
Fair amount of progress 16 members including Sky builders and Writers USA
Committee meets every other Thursday at 4:30 PM ET
There are usually 5-9 people in attendance/
Domain experience all kinds of Help - including DITA
Ramp up issues
1. How did we ramp up?
Went through state of DITA-based help -
The committee had Demos of existing solutions
Modeled on Learning Sub-committee and took about 2.5 months to get going.
2. Tackling tech probs which they hope to resolve in 1.3 time frame
a. DITA window management
b. Call back IDs
Best practices guide - another initiative in 1.2 time frame
Specializations for 1.3 hoped
Don Day - public doubts about DITA for Help - working as group on this. Often home-grown stuff is solution. MS and Adobe have joined sub-committee.
Bruce - PTC plans - TC folks to help Editor convert to use DITA -some time next year -
Bruce - DITA is real focus - but open to lots of stuff
Don Day- Help topics typically only for Help - can DITA help with content reuse for Help topics
This is generally done already - although it is still an issue.
Stan - Help is just one transform of many. Build it and they will come.
Mark Lewis - how is package going to be organized
Tony and others have made a matrix of how Help packages manage content.
2. ITEM: mime type for DITA -- OASIS comment about process
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Eric Hennen
2nd draft mailed out on 5.6.08 to OASIS
There is only one issue - fragment identifiers - The choice is to identify or be silent and the proposal is to be silent.
DITA map does not bring down part of a map or a topic. Any possible fragment would always be wrapped in a topic.
Being silent would be good until the XPointer standard comes. If it does get done there might be an issue.
Can TC approve current write-up with no fragments?
Motion
Don Day
Approve current write-up with no fragments and promote to OASIS with
section 3 with fragment identifier language stricken.
2nd Jeff Ogden
Carried by acclamation.
Once OASIS approves spec, it is sent to To IANA - registry of MIME types.
Send to Jamie Clark.
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00035.html (Hennum wrap up)
3. NOTE: DITA Adoption TC/SC
* Reminder of Member Section/Joint Committee materials for next week:
JoAnn
Charter is out to OASIS for review
Bruce Nevins' comment very helpful. Issue of usability in DITA adoptions which is especially relevant for tool vendors.
Bruce Nevins - usability - side effect of activities - needs more formal attention
needs addressed - purpose of this TC is sales - does not seem right place to address issue
JoAnn - not in charter (usability) How to address?
Eric - usability labs were done by IBM early on - would be good to do use cases - need to address usability.
Eric- integrate into dev process or separate process?
JoAnn - next dev plan take acccount of usability?
[unknown speaker] Procedure question - both TCs tackle question?
Don - add to charter - various TCs need to address usablity
JoAnn -charter convening is on the 17th All comments must be in by that date.
OASIS conveners on June 20th.
July 28th first meeting is tentative date for first meeting of TC.
On agenda for next week. Don Day - to contact Mary McCrae for clarification of these issues in a timely manner.
Time ran out at this point.
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http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200806/msg00006.html (Ogden)
4. ITEM: Need Clarification on Implications of Different List Markup Patterns
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http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200802/msg00011.html (original note from Eliot)
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http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200804/msg00058.html (Kimber base proposal)
* see ensuing list discussion--much!
5. ITEM: Questions about Machine Industry specializations:
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http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/MI_Task_implementation_questions
6. New ITEM: ISBN Element Trapped in Bookmap Specialization (Kimber)
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http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00041.html
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http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200806/msg00004.html (Radford comments)
7. NOTE: latest DITA 1.2 draft uploads:
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Lang spec ToCJS: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200806/msg00000.html (1 June)
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Lang spec source: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00044.html (30 May)
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Lang spec CHM: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00043.html (30 May)
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DTDs: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200806/msg00003.html (3 June)
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XSDs: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00040.html (28 May)
8. ITEM: DITA 1.2 Packages (resume from previous weeks)
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http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00023.html (OASIS comment about process)
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http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00025.html (Ogden comeback proposal)
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http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00026.html (Hunt amendment to Learning SC package)
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http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00028.html (
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