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Subject: DITA Technical Committee Meeting Minutes:10 June 2008

Please let me know if there are any corrections needed.


Thanks - Rob


Rob Frankland

Sock Monkey Consulting, LLC

12408 Kallgren RD NE

Bainbridge Island, WA 98110



The DITA TC Wiki serves the OASIS DITA TC for collaborative design work and for management of comment responses and other tracking documents.

OASIS DITA TC: Roadmap for DITA development


      Agenda for 10 June 2008: 

DITA TC Wiki: http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/FrontPage

8:00-8:05 Roll call

Approve minutes from previous business meetings:


      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200806/msg00005.html (3 June 2008) 

Don Day made motion to approve minutes
Second - Chris Kovo
Approved by acclamation


   1. ITEM: Subcommittee reports (as needed)
          * OASIS DITA Translation Subcommittee
          * OASIS DITA Learning Content Subcommittee
          * OASIS DITA Machine Industry Subcommittee
          * OASIS DITA Semiconductor Information Design Subcommittee
          * OASIS DITA for Enterprise Business Documents Subcommittee
          * OASIS DITA Help Subcommittee <-- Stan Doherty 

Fair amount of progress 16 members including Sky builders and Writers USA

Committee meets every other Thursday at 4:30 PM ET

There are usually 5-9 people in attendance/

Domain experience  all kinds of Help - including DITA

Ramp up issues 

1. How did we ramp up?
Went through state of DITA-based help - 
The committee had Demos of existing solutions

Modeled on Learning Sub-committee and took about 2.5 months to get going.

2. Tackling tech probs which they hope to resolve in 1.3 time frame
a. DITA window management
b. Call back IDs

Best practices guide - another initiative in 1.2 time frame

Specializations for 1.3 hoped

Don Day - public doubts about DITA for Help - working as group on this. Often home-grown stuff is solution. MS and Adobe have joined sub-committee.

Bruce  - PTC plans - TC folks to help Editor convert to use DITA -some time next year - 

Bruce - DITA is real focus - but open to lots of stuff

Don Day- Help topics typically only for Help - can DITA help with content reuse for Help topics

This is generally done already - although it is still an issue.

Stan - Help is just one transform of many. Build it and they will come.

Mark Lewis - how is package going to be organized

Tony and others have made a matrix of how Help packages manage content.

   2. ITEM: mime type for DITA -- OASIS comment about process

	  Eric Hennen

2nd draft mailed out on 5.6.08 to OASIS 

There is only one issue - fragment identifiers - The choice is to identify or be silent and the proposal is to be silent.

DITA map does not bring down part of a map or a topic. Any possible fragment would always be wrapped in a topic.

Being silent would be good until the XPointer standard comes. If it does get done there might be an issue.

Can TC approve current write-up with no fragments?

Don Day

Approve current write-up with no fragments and promote to OASIS with 
section 3 with fragment identifier language stricken.

2nd Jeff Ogden

Carried by acclamation.

Once OASIS approves spec, it is sent to To IANA - registry of MIME types.

Send to Jamie Clark.

            http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00035.html (Hennum wrap up) 
   3. NOTE: DITA Adoption TC/SC
          * Reminder of Member Section/Joint Committee materials for next week:


	  Charter is out to OASIS for review

	  Bruce Nevins' comment very helpful. Issue of usability in DITA adoptions which is especially relevant for tool vendors.

	  Bruce Nevins - usability - side effect of activities - needs more formal attention

	  needs addressed - purpose of this TC is sales - does not seem right place to address issue

	  JoAnn - not in charter (usability) How to address?

	  Eric - usability labs were done by IBM early on - would be good to do use cases - need to address usability.

	  Eric- integrate into dev process or separate process?

	  JoAnn - next dev plan take acccount of usability?

	  [unknown speaker] Procedure question -  both TCs tackle question?

	  Don - add to charter - various TCs need to address usablity

	JoAnn  -charter convening is on the 17th All comments must be in by that date.
	OASIS conveners on June 20th. 
	July 28th first meeting is tentative date for first meeting of TC.

	On agenda for next week. Don Day - to contact Mary McCrae for clarification of these issues in a timely manner.

	Time ran out at this point.

                  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200806/msg00006.html (Ogden) 
   4. ITEM: Need Clarification on Implications of Different List Markup Patterns

            http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200802/msg00011.html (original note from Eliot)

            http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200804/msg00058.html (Kimber base proposal)
          * see ensuing list discussion--much! 
   5. ITEM: Questions about Machine Industry specializations:

   6. New ITEM: ISBN Element Trapped in Bookmap Specialization (Kimber)


            http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200806/msg00004.html (Radford comments) 
   7. NOTE: latest DITA 1.2 draft uploads:

            Lang spec ToCJS: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200806/msg00000.html (1 June)

            Lang spec source: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00044.html (30 May)

            Lang spec CHM: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00043.html (30 May)

            DTDs: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200806/msg00003.html (3 June)

            XSDs: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00040.html (28 May) 
   8. ITEM: DITA 1.2 Packages (resume from previous weeks)

            http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00023.html (OASIS comment about process)

            http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00025.html (Ogden comeback proposal)

            http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00026.html (Hunt amendment to Learning SC package)

            http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200805/msg00028.html (

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