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Subject: RE: [dita] constraints support? (Was: Problems with the task model)


Here’s my take on various issues below:

 

1) Will applications support the constraints feature?

 

For XMetaL we are considering it, but the feature is actually very difficult to fully implement in a robust way. I recommend that we deliver DITA 1.2 DTDs, XSDs, and documentation in such a way that authors can easily use both task models, regardless of whether their tools have awareness of the DITA constraints feature.

 

2) “That means that companies that are using and want the strict task model are stuck. It’s not being made available. Are we going to see that with all the editor vendors because they don’t understand that there are now two task types?”

 

No. It is easy for a product to support both the restrictive task DTD and the generalTask DTD, and as Eliot pointed out you can probably configure most authoring tools to use whatever DTD you want. But we should change the documentation because I can see that the current draft of the langref doesn’t encourage vendors to support the more restrictive task type in out-of-the-box products, *except* via the constraints model.

 

3) “I don’t see anything in the lang ref, the dtd or the Arbortext 5.4 implementation any provision for additional sets of steps. Where is this supposed to happen?”

 

The langref is confusing because when it says a task “may define more than one set of steps”, people might expect this to mean that a task would allow more than one <steps> element. I think what it’s trying to say is that you can use the <steps-informal>  element and put multiple <ol> elements inside <steps-informal>.

 

Here are some suggested rewordings for the description of <task> in the langref:

 

- “In the document types provided by OASIS with DITA 1.0 and 1.1, the task only allowed a single set of either <steps> or <steps-unordered> elements, and a set could contain only <step> elements. In DITA 1.2 there are two task models: a restricive task model which is identical to DITA 1.1, and a looser “general” task model. The chief difference between the two is that the looser model can contain a <steps-informal> element which can contain a wide variety of elements, including one or more <ol> elements. The restrictive task model is delivered in two ways: as a set of constraints on the general task document type, and as its own document type. If there is a difference between these two methods of delivery, the constraints method is considered the normative one. Task topics within <ditabase> and <learningContent> use the looser model.”

 

- In the Doctype column of the table, change “ditabase, learningContent” to “ditabase, learningContent, generalTask”.

 

- Change:

 

“The <taskbody> element is the main body-level element inside a task topic. A task body is designed to contain information specific to completing a task, such as prerequisites, contextual information, and steps. With DITA 1.2, the content model of taskbody is looser to accommodate additional task structures. OASIS provides a DITA constraint that mimics the previous tight content model so that users continue to have easy access to the strict model.”

 

to this:

 

“The <taskbody> element is the main body-level element inside task topic. A task body is designed to contain information specific to completing a task, such as prerequisites, contextual information, and instructions.”

 

Regards,

Su-Laine

 

 

Su-Laine Yeo
Interaction Design Specialist

JustSystems Canada, Inc.
Office: 778-327-6356
syeo@justsystems.com

www.justsystems.com

 

 

From: Erik Hennum [mailto:ehennum@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:40 PM
To: JoAnn Hackos
Cc: dita@lists.oasis-open.org; Harold Trent
Subject: [dita] constraints support? (Was: Problems with the task model)

 

Hi, JoAnn:

Separating the constraints and task model issues -- although the name "constraints" sounds like something that requires special tooling, in fact constraints mostly affect the DITA vocabulary designer. Constraints refine the pattern for implementing a DTD or XML Schema.

Constraints don't add to the following core editor implementation tasks:

** Document validation. Generic DTD or XML Schema support is all that's needed to validate documents with constrained DITA vocabularies.

** Rendering and editing behaviors. Basic specialization support (sensitivity to the base vocabulary and matching vocabulary names in the class attribute) is all that's needed for rendering and editing constrained DITA vocabularies.

An editor tool only needs awareness of constraints during conref checks. Specialization already imposes some requirements for verifying generalizability by inspecting the architectural attributes, but constraints adds to those requirements.

In short, for an editor tool, constraints have a low cost for an enhancement that can improve the usability of structured documents.

A vocabulary design tool would be a different story -- I can readily see how constraints could pose a significant challenge for tooling in that area.


If I'm naive about the implementation challenges, maybe an editor implementer could clarify.


Erik Hennum
ehennum @ us.ibm.com


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"JoAnn Hackos" <joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com>


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09/10/2009 02:56 PM


Subject:


[dita] Problems with the task model





I’ve spent the entire day trying to figure out what has happened to the task model since I’m trying to write the Technical Content section of the Arch Spec.
If you look at the 1.2 lang spec, <task>, you’ll find this claim

“In the document types provided by OASIS with DITA 1.0 and 1.1, the task only allowed a single set of steps. In DITA 1.2 this restriction is relaxed so that a task may define more than one set of steps. However, OASIS will continue to distribute a sample document type that only allows a single set (using the new constraints mechanism available with DITA 1.2), for use by those that prefer the more restrictive model.”

The original strict task model is in OT 1.5. However, in PTC’s Arbortext 5.4, there is only the “generic” loose task model.

Also, I understand that Arbortext will not support the constraint mechanism with this release. Doesn’t seem to be in future plans either.

That means that companies that are using and want the strict task model are stuck. It’s not being made available. Are we going to see that with all the editor vendors because they don’t understand that there are now two task types?


Next,
I looked at the 1.2 lang spec, <taskbody> .

It shows the generic task model (loose) as contained in ditabase and the standard original better task model in “task”. Makes no sense of course


Then, to quote

“The <taskbody> element is the main body-level element inside a task topic. A task body is designed to contain information specific to completing a task, such as prerequisites, contextual information, and steps. With DITA 1.2, the content model of taskbody is looser to accommodate additional task structures. OASIS provides a DITA constraint that mimics the previous tight content model so that users continue to have easy access to the strict model.”

Another quote:
In the document types provided by OASIS with DITA 1.0 and 1.1, the task only allowed a single set of steps. In DITA 1.2 this restriction is relaxed so that a task may define more than one set of steps. However, OASIS will continue to distribute a sample document type that only allows a single set (using the new constraints mechanism available with DITA 1.2), for use by those that prefer the more restrictive model.

I don’t see anything in the lang ref, the dtd or the Arbortext 5.4 implementation any provision for additional sets of steps. Where is this supposed to happen?

How do we correct these issues?

JoAnn

JoAnn Hackos PhD
President
Comtech Services, Inc.
joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com
Skype joannhackos




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