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Subject: RE: [dita] FW: Why "Key name"?


My understanding is that a key is that which is defined in a key definition, that is, the binding of a key name to a resource. Is that incorrect?

	/Bruce

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ogden, Jeff [mailto:jogden@ptc.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:48 PM
> To: ekimber; Michael Priestley
> Cc: dita
> Subject: RE: [dita] FW: Why "Key name"?
> 
> I don't think that that distinction between "key" and "key 
> name" matters to us very much and so we should use one or the 
> other and not both.  
> 
> I happen to prefer "key name" over "key". I just think that 
> "key name" reads a little better when we are also using the 
> phrases "key reference" and "key definition".  Having "key" 
> by itself can be somewhat confusing, because it makes it seem 
> like a "key" and a "key name" are two different things. And 
> while they might be two different things in some strict 
> sense, I don't see that difference as being helpful as we use 
> the terms in the DITA 1.2 spec.
> 
>     -Jeff
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ekimber [mailto:ekimber@reallysi.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:18 PM
> > To: Michael Priestley
> > Cc: dita; Ogden, Jeff
> > Subject: Re: [dita] FW: Why "Key name"?
> > 
> > On 11/4/09 10:34 AM, "Michael Priestley" 
> <mpriestl@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm not sure I see the need either. "Key" and "key reference" are
> > parallel
> > > to "ID" and "ID reference", as Eliot points out. And that's
> > sufficient for
> > > the majority of cases, where the keyref is to a simple key, not a
> > compound
> > > value. So I don't think the problem case is all that big.
> > >
> > > I'm also not sure how, even if there is a problem, adding "name"
> > helps.
> > > Maybe we could see an example of a problem sentence, written both
> > ways?
> > 
> > I just noticed that the 2nd review draft does have this language in 
> > the Langref topic on Using keys and keyref:
> > 
> > " A key value consists of one or more space separated key 
> names. The 
> > following characters are prohibited in key names: ³{³, ³}², 
> ³[³, ³]², 
> > ³/², ³#², ³?², and space characters. The case of key names is 
> > significant. A key may not resolve to sub-topic elements, 
> although a 
> > keyref attribute may do so by combining a key with a 
> sub-topic element 
> > id."
> > 
> > One problem with this particular paragraph is that the 
> phrase "A key 
> > value consists of" should in fact be "The value of the 
> @keys attribute 
> > consists of".
> > 
> > However, even after making that change, it is still useful, 
> at least 
> > in the context of this paragraph, to use "key name" rather than 
> > unqualified "key", otherwise you get this:
> > 
> > The value of the @keys attribute consists of one or more space 
> > separated keys. The following characters are prohibited in 
> keys: ³{³, 
> > ³}², ³[³, ³]², ³/², ³#², ³?², and space characters. The 
> case of keys 
> > is significant. A key may not resolve to sub-topic 
> elements, although 
> > a keyref attribute may do so by combining a key with a sub-topic 
> > element id.
> > 
> > Note the potential confusion between the plural of "key" 
> and mentions 
> > of the @keys attribute.
> > 
> > I'm not sure that means we should use "key name" in place of "key"
> > throughout, but this is a case where "key name" helps.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > E.
> > 
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