Re: [dita] Conref push of different content to the same topic indifferent contexts

[Eliot Kimber <ekimber@reallysi.com>]

A key-scoping mechanism would probably enable satisfying the requirement,
although it might lead to some convoluted maps, for example to have variant
chapter topics with invariant subordinate topics you'd need one map per
chapter (to get different key bindings) and then a shared map for the
invariant subordinate topicrefs.

A mechanism that simply allowed you to bind a pushing topic to a base topic
directly on the topicref would be clearer, but might have other problems.

So I would say we capture the requirement (per-use application of conref
push) and sort out the implementation details later.

Cheers,

E.


On 1/25/10 8:44 AM, "Ogden, Jeff" <jogden@ptc.com> wrote:

> Is this proposal #13004 or #13005 on the DITA 1.3 list?
> 
>  
> 
> #13004: Future post DITA 1.2 work from Issue #12007: Item 2: Consider
> adding a scoping mechanism for use with key definitions and possibly
> other aspects of DITA based on the map hierarchy or the combined element
> hierarchy within a set of maps.
> 
>  
> 
> #13005: Future post DITA 1.2 work from Issue #12007: Item 3: Consider
> allowing subsequent key definitions within the same map or within peer
> maps to override previous key definitions, probably as part of some
> hierarchal scope, and probably in a fashion that is the same as or
> similar to override mechanisms to be developed for other features such
> as ditaval.
> 
>  
> 
> We talked about something like this back when we were working on
> proposal #12007 (keyref) and there are some statements about it in the
> proposal.  Back then people said that it would be a useful feature, but
> that we didn't want to deal with it as part of DITA 1.2.
> 
>  
> 
>    -Jeff
> 
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>> From: Eliot Kimber [mailto:ekimber@reallysi.com]
> 
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:30 AM
> 
>> To: dita
> 
>> Subject: [dita] Conref push of different content to the same topic in
> 
>> different contexts
> 
>> 
> 
>> I'm pretty sure the answer is "no" based on my understanding of the
> 
>> feature,
> 
>> but I wanted to confirm that one cannot use conref push to impose
> 
>> different
> 
>> elements onto the same topic used in different places within the same
> 
>> map.
> 
>> 
> 
>> The question was asked today on the DITA users list how to have a
> topic
> 
>> used
> 
>> in four chapters of a single manual where the topic differed only a
> 
>> couple
> 
>> of details.
> 
>> 
> 
>> Because in this case it's a single publication (single root map), you
> 
>> cannot
> 
>> use keys to get different results and a conref push likewise points
> 
>> from the
> 
>> pusher to exactly one pushee.
> 
>> 
> 
>> If my analysis is correct, it suggests there might be a useful feature
> 
>> for
> 
>> 1.3 consideration to enable associating a pushing topic with a target
> 
>> topic
> 
>> in a use-specific way, perhaps a new attribute on topicref or
> something.
> 
>> 
> 
>> Cheers,
> 
>> 
> 
>> E.
> 
>> 
> 
>> --
> 
>> Eliot Kimber
> 
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> 
>> "Bringing Strategy, Content, and Technology Together"
> 
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> 
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