Re: [dita] We need a name space for DITA 1.2

[Eliot Kimber <ekimber@reallysi.com>]

Note that there *is* a namespace used by DITA, namely:

http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/

Which is used for the @DITAArchVersion attribute.

This was added in DITA 1.1 specifically to make all DITA documents
unambiguously self-describing as DITA documents.

Not sure this satisfies the OASIS namespace requirement since it doesn't
apply to anything other than the DITAArchVersion attribute, but it is a
namespace explicitly associated with the DITA standard and DITA documents.

Cheers,

E.

On 5/20/10 1:44 PM, "Don Day" <donday@bga.com> wrote:

> Paul, that sounds like eminently good reasoning, considering the history
> invested in the current namespace. Kris, could you be sure Mary sees Paul's
> comment when you reply?  Thanks!
> --
> Don Day
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> Grosso, Paul wrote:
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>> We have a namespace:
>> xmlns:ditaarch="http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/";
>> <http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/>
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>> Mary isn't (or shouldn't) be saying that we need to put all our elements into
>> a namespace.  I don't agree that, just because we have DTDs and XSDs, we need
>> to have a namespace, but we do have a namespace name--except that our
>> namespace doesn't follow the conventions she outlined.  I'm not sure if the
>> conventions she mentions came about after we came up with our namespace name
>> or if we screwed up in coming up with a name in oasis-space without getting
>> permission, but at this point it's too late to change (it's been like that
>> since DITA 1.0 and lots of tools rely on it).
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>> So what we should probably do is put an appropriately modified version of
>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/namespace.html at
>> http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/index.html (since that's what
>> will get read when someone puts
>> "http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/";
>> <http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/> into their browser).
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>> Then for DITA 2.0 we can come up with more OASIS-compliant namespace names.
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>> paul
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>> From: Kristen James Eberlein [mailto:kris@eberleinconsulting.com]
>>  Sent: Thursday, 2010 May 20 12:50
>>  To: Michael Priestley
>>  Cc: DITA TC
>>  Subject: Re: [dita] We need a name space for DITA 1.2
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>> OK, I'll let Mary know.
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>>  Best,
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>>  Kris
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>> Kristen James Eberlein
>> Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
>> Secretary, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
>> Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee
>>  www.eberleinconsulting.com <http://www.eberleinconsulting.com/>
>> +1 919 682-2290; keberlein (skype)
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>> On 5/20/2010 1:46 PM, Michael Priestley wrote:
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>>  We explicitly decided to delay namespaces as an issue until 1.3. We'll
>> probably want multiple namespaces, to reflect the modular nature of the
>> standard. 
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>>  If they are requiring us to declare one before we're ready, we should push
>> back. 
>>  
>>  Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
>> Lead IBM DITA Architect
>>  mpriestl@ca.ibm.com
>>  http://dita.xml.org/blog/25 <http://dita.xml.org/blog/25>
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>>   From:    Kristen James Eberlein <kris@eberleinconsulting.com>
>> <mailto:kris@eberleinconsulting.com>
>>   To:    DITA TC <dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
>> <mailto:dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>   Date:    05/20/2010 01:40 PM
>>   Subject:    [dita] We need a name space for DITA 1.2
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>>  According to Mary McRae, we no longer need an overview document; the
>> overview 
>> document was necessary ONLY because we had both an architectural spec and a
>> language spec.
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>> However, Mary says:
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>> "Since there are DTDs and Schemas, the TC must define a namespace. I highly
>> recommend that the TC define an http namespace and provide a namespace
>> document. The namespace document will contain links to the spec, the schemas
>> and the dtd files. OASIS requires namespaces to be in the following format:
>>  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/dita <http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/dita>
>> /{namespace name goes here} OR
>>  http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/ns <http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/ns>
>> /{namespace name goes here}"
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>> So what do we want for our namespace name?
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>> FYI, here is a link to the OASIS namespace template:
>>  http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/namespace.html
>> <http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/namespace.html>
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>> Best,
>>  
>> Kris
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>> Kristen James Eberlein
>> Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
>> Secretary, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
>> Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee
>>  www.eberleinconsulting.com <http://www.eberleinconsulting.com/>
>> +1 919 682-2290; keberlein (skype)
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