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Subject: Ramifications of changing an existing namespace

Hi, Mary and others.

The namespace http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/ is officially part of the OASIS DITA 1.0 and OASIS DITA 1.1 specifications. See the following topics in the specifications:
Can someone clearly and thoroughly explain just what the ramifications would be if we were to change this to align with OASIS's namespace policies?



Kristen James Eberlein
Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
Secretary, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee

+1 919 682-2290; kriseberlein (skype)

On 6/23/2010 7:56 AM, Mary McRae wrote:
D15C67EC-B2CB-4174-A0DF-3BCFBE28378D@oasis-open.org" type="cite">The namespace http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/ is not allowed. We do use a redirect of sorts to deliver the namespace document at the namespace location, but dita.oasis-open.org is not allowed.



On Jun 23, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Don Day wrote:

Is it possible to set a redirect for the location http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/ that simply goes to the preferred OASIS hosting address? That would seem to be the easiest way forward and avoids the current case of a 404 return message, which fits my definition of "the principle of astonishment" that standards usually try to avoid!  ;-)

Don Day

Grosso, Paul wrote:
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We aren't communicating.


I don't know what "it" isn't the issue for you.


I don't know what it means for a namespace to be at a location.


The DITA namespace name is http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/.  That is unchangeable.


When someone puts a namespace name into a browser, they are supposed to be served a namespace document.  That is a recommendation of the W3C Technical Advisory Group headed by Tim Berners-Lee.  I don't not want to see OASIS violate this, and I would hope you and the other people who make OASIS policy [isn't that supposed to be the OASIS members, i.e., us] would not want to violate this either.


So something needs to be served when http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/ is accessed. The easiest way to do that is to put something at http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/index.htm.  That something can either be the namespace document or a document that redirects to a copy of the namespace document.




From: Mary McRae [mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 2010 June 22 21:28
To: Grosso, Paul
Cc: Kristen James Eberlein; DITA TC
Subject: Re: [dita] Re: DITA 1.2, CD 02 submission (DITA1.2-CD02.zip) uploaded


Hi Paul,


  No, that's not the issue. OASIS requires all namespaces to live at http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/dita/... or http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/ns. If a namespace was declared prior to the naming guidelines going into effect (which created the explicit 'ns' in the path) then it must be at http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/...  It can't be at dita.oasis-open.org.




On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:49 PM, Grosso, Paul wrote:



The namespace must live on http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita - it cannot live at the site of the focus area.


I assume by "namespace" you mean the namespace document.



Since the namespace document has to be returned when one accesses the namespace name, the namespace document (or perhaps a redirect to it) has to reside at http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/index.htm.





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