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Subject: RE: [dita] Question about <navtitle> in <topicgroup> allowed by DITA 1.2

I'm not necessarily opposed to that behavior, although that would be opposite behavior from other navtitles, which, if specified, replace the title both in the authoring environment and the output.

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From: dita@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:dita@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Eliot Kimber
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:43 AM
To: dita
Subject: Re: [dita] Question about <navtitle> in <topicgroup> allowed by DITA 1.2

My expectation would be that editors would show the title, even in a map viewer like Oxygen's Map Manager.

That's because the value of titles on topic groups is for authors, letting you label topic groups in order to clarify their intent and use.

If the spec doesn't make it clear that that behavior is allowed, I think we need to clarify it.

It is definitely the case that topicgroup titles should not contribute to the navigation hierarchy defined in a map as reflected in final-form deliverables, but I don't think that same restriction should apply to authoring environments.



On 6/25/12 6:57 AM, "Kristen James Eberlein" <kris@eberleinconsulting.com>

>    A question from Radu Coravu for us to consider.
>  Kris
>  -------- Original Message --------
>  Subject:  [Dita-ot-developer] Question about  in  allowed by DITA 1.2
>  Date:  Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:51:31 +0300
>  From:  Radu Coravu <radu_coravu@sync.ro> <mailto:radu_coravu@sync.ro>
>  To:  dita-ot-developer@lists.sourceforge.net
> Hi everybody,
> The DITA OT specification states this:
> Beginning with DITA 1.2, you are able to specify a <navtitle> element 
> within the <topicmeta> element inside of a <topicgroup>. The 
> <topicgroup> element is meant as a non-titled grouping element, so 
> adding a <navtitle> element to the <topicgroup> element has no defined 
> purpose, and processors must ignore the title.
> I know the construct is not illegal according to the schemas but is 
> the construct illegal according to the DITA 1.2 specification?
>> <topicgroup>
>>     <topicmeta>
>>       <navtitle>Navigation title</navtitle>
>>     </topicmeta>
>>   </topicgroup>
> One of our users has such constructs and wants Oxygen XML Editor to 
> display these titles for <topicgroup>s when editing the DITA Map in 
> the DITA Maps Manager view (which shows a TOC-like outline of the DITA Map).
> I know there has been an older discussion about this:
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201008/msg00105.html
> In your opinion what would be the best approach for an editor which 
> shows the TOC-like structure of the DITA Map?
> If the construct is not considered invalid by the spec (but more in a 
> gray area) I guess we can make this improvement.
> Regards,
> Radu
> Radu Coravu
> <oXygen/>  XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com
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Eliot Kimber
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